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"The wicked understand, acknowledge and value the Wise—they depend on the Wise for their own cynical gain. The simple don’t see the point of wisdom. Those who do not know how to ask don’t even know wisdom is a thing."
-—The Four Children of the Seder as the Simulacra Levels
Zvi describes the four children of the Seder (Passover) as the four (and one extra) simulacrum levels:
"The wicked understand, acknowledge and value the Wise—they depend on the Wise for their own cynical gain. The simple don’t see the point of wisdom. Those who do not know how to ask don’t even know wisdom is a thing." - The Four Children of the Seder as the Simulacra Levels
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By Zvi:
A concrete example of the above from Michael Vassar:
The origin of this framework is in Simulacra and Simulation by sociologist Jean Baudrillard.
Simulacrum Levels are a framework for analyzing different motivations people can have for making statements.
Simulacrum Level 1: Attempt to describe the world accurately.
Simulacrum Level 2: Choose what to say based on what your statement will cause other people to do or believe.
Simulacrum Level 3: Say things that signal membership to your ingroup.
Simulacrum Level 4: Choose which group to signal membership to based on what the benefit would be for you.
One way to test which level someone is on is what would make them say the opposite of what they say now: