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Please, Don't Roll Your Own Metaethics
avturchin18m20

Yes, but processing 3D and more is difficult and representing on paper also difficult. Therefore, several 2D slices of mental hyperspace can work. 
You can have a look on last version but it is in Russian. 

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Please, Don't Roll Your Own Metaethics
avturchin1h30

I create two dimensional matrix of the most important characteristics which I hope will catch most variability and use it as x and y axis. For example, for AI risk can be number of AIs and AI's IQ (or time from now). It is Descartes method. 
 

There are other tricks to collect more ideas for the list - reading literature, asking a friend, brain-shtroming, money prizes. 

I created a more general map of methods of thinking but didn't finish yet. 

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Please, Don't Roll Your Own Metaethics
avturchin8h50

Actually, anytime I encounter a complex problem, I do exactly this: I create a list of all possible ideas and – if I can – probabilities. It is time consuming brut-forcing. See examples: 

The table of different sampling assumptions in anthropics

Types of Boltzmann Brains

What AI Safety Researchers Have Written About the Nature of Human Values

[Paper]: Classification of global catastrophic risks connected with artificial intelligence


I am surprised that it is not a normal approach despite its truly Bayesian nature. 

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Please, Don't Roll Your Own Metaethics
avturchin1d50

I don't understand your lol here - am I wrong? Is world  wrong?

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Warning Aliens About the Dangerous AI We Might Create
avturchin2d20

Request for help and also expose our AI future AI as potentially misaligned so it would have double down to pretend to be aligned. 

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Warning Aliens About the Dangerous AI We Might Create
avturchin2d50

We can not only warn them, but request help. In that case, their age is not a problem - but distance is. 
 

Also expose our future AI as potentially misaligned, so it would have double down to pretend to be aligned. 

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Please, Don't Roll Your Own Metaethics
avturchin2d30

Can we: create a full list or map of ideas and after that add probabilities to each one?

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Undissolvable Problems: things that still confuse me
avturchin2d1-3

In my view: Qualia are a type of mathematical objects which depends only from themselves. This explains first two questions. 
1 Only qualia exist which depends only from themselves. 
2 Only consciousness content is real and the universe outside is just a way to describe how one qualia is connected with another (This view was suggested by Ernst Mach - I will make a post about soon). 

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Warning Aliens About the Dangerous AI We Might Create
avturchin2d30

Our warning message can be received in many points "simultaneously" - so they don't need to spend more time exchanging information across Andromeda galaxy and can start preparing locally. 

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Warning Aliens About the Dangerous AI We Might Create
avturchin2d20

I asked AI about it and it told me that large radiotelescope may suffice. However, the main uncertainty is receivers equipment. If they are on Proxima, they suspect that there is life near Sun, so constant observations are possible - but the size of receiver depends on Kardashev level of civilization. 

Advance civilizations will have larger receiving dishes, may be the size of Dyson spheres - but such civilizations are farther (or they will be here). 

Therefore, relation distanace/reciver-size is approximately constant. 

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65Warning Aliens About the Dangerous AI We Might Create
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1Mess AI – deliberate corruption of the training data to prevent superintelligence
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8Quantum immortality and AI risk – the fate of a lonely survivor
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58A New Global Risk: Large Comet’s Impact on Sun Could Cause Fires on Earth
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16Biouploading: Preserving My Living Neurons and Connectome as a Spatially Distributed Mesh
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-3Evolution favors the ability to change subjective probabilities in MWI + Experimental test
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15Time Machine as Existential Risk
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19Our Reality: A Simulation Run by a Paperclip Maximizer
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9Experimental testing: can I treat myself as a random sample?
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10The Quantum Mars Teleporter: An Empirical Test Of Personal Identity Theories
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