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ITT-passing and civility are good; "charity" is bad; steelmanning is niche

I think that steelmanning a person is usually a bad idea, rather one should steelman positions (when one cares about the matter to which the positions are relevant).

I claim this avoids a sufficient swath of the OP's outlined problems of steelmanning for the articles claim of 'nicheness', and that the semi tautology of 'appropriate steelmanning is appropriate' more accurately maps reality. 

"The problem isn't 'charity is a good conversational norm, but these people are doing it wrong'; the problem is that charity is a bad conversational norm. If nothing else, it's bad because it equivocates between 'be friendly' norms and 'have accurate beliefs about others' norms."
here we can see a bad use case for steelmanning (having accurate beliefs about others) which makes me wonder if its not a question of doing it wrong? (contra to OP).  I also notice that i think most people should have less conversations about what people think, and more conversations about what is true (where steelmanning becomes again more relevant), and wonder where you fall (because such a thing might be upstream?).  

I also am apparently into declaratives today. 

(meta: written without much rigor or edits rather then unwritten, ) 

My cognitive inertia cycle

First, Writing things so you know them seems valuable.

Second, Fwiw In my struggles with depression, I've found physical habits to be the easiest route to something better. When you don't know what to do but need to do something, go for a walk/hike/jog and let your brain sync up with your body a little, burn some calories to regain some hunger, and deserve some the tiredness you may already feel.

The best 'free solo' (rock climbing) video

Good video, even if I'm don't quite agree with the superlative. I suspect that the festival film this video is about (this YouTube is a Pete Whitaker behind the scenes will be better, and also I'm excited for the full 3d/ vr films that should be coming out soon (here is Alex honold doing the behind the scenes thing

Why all the fuss about recursive self-improvement?

I think clever duplication of human intelligence is plenty sufficient for general superhuman capacity in the important sense  (wherein I mean something like 'it has capacities such that would be extincion causing if (it believes) minimizing its loss function is achieved by turning off humanity (which could turn it off/ start other (proto-)agis)').

for one,  I don't think humanity is that robust in the status quo, and 2, a team of internally aligned (because copies) human level intelligence capable of graduate level biology seems plenty existentially scary.

[NSFW Review] Interspecies Reviewers

typo: "Gugguk" should be "Gigguk" 

Beckeck's Shortform

Hi, I'm Beck. For credibility, Eliezer once said I was chosen by the Food Gods. The following is on the pareto frontier of delicious, easy condiments and is robust to change (but not the most healthy). 
Chipotle Mayo:
(<5 min prep)
2 cups good quality mayo (Hellman's is a classic)
1-2 minced chipotles in adobo *
1-2 pinch (ground toasted) cumin 
1/2 teaspoon (smoked) paprika 

1. combine ingredients
2. eat with things (potatoes, roast vegetables, meats...)  

* small cans are available in the hispanic section of most US grocery stores, use a couple of chilis (and their sauce) at a time then keep the rest in the fridge for whatever you want to be made delicious, smokey and spicy (maybe more mayo))

12 interesting things I learned studying the discovery of nature's laws

some places to look (with hope that others might add theirs): 
Moneyball (the book, the movie lacks detail but gets some of the spirit)
fivethirtyeight's methodology articles on their various sports/+ models (
probably a bunch of articles from grantland (which is archived but available, but i lack titles off the top of my head)
zvi's sports betting articles 

12 interesting things I learned studying the discovery of nature's laws

in lieu of writing nothing instead, informally -
hey, good list! i wonder if you've read much of the recent history of sabermetrics, which to me is the modern equivalent (in that it's a history of bunch of nerds and some people who wanted to be rich who actualized statistical modeling at the frontier of the applied science)?


I barely assed the exercise but like/liked this.
For (graph comfortable) me i found  the graphs* to cleanly get me to some subset of the relevant frames/questions/narratives.

if i'd written the post, a version of the final chart would have been first (or at least near).  i have various other thoughts on that level which feel both like quibbles and like significant differences in how you and i (or an agent and another agent) carryout the moment to moment cognition of an attempting to be rational agent.  


*except the green bar graph, which i could just guess at meanings for.

Attempted Gears Analysis of AGI Intervention Discussion With Eliezer

not an expert, but I think life is an existence proof for the power of nanotech, even if the specifics of a grey goo scenario seem less than likely possible. Trees turn sunlight and air into wood, ribosomes build peptides and proteins, and while current generation models of protein folding are a ways from having generative capacity, it's unclear how many breakthroughs are between humanity and that general/generative capacity.  

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