Who lacks the qualia of consciousness?
Do these things feel logically impossible per se?

Yes, same qualia as looking at an Escher staircase IRL but feels more fundamental.

Do they feel impossible because they contradict other things that you believe are true?

No. I can't break down why they feel impossible.

Do you draw the conclusion that the impossible-seeming things genuinely cannot exist or (in the case of self-perception?) genuinely do not exist, despite appearances?

Kinda but I can't maintain that because milliseconds later I perceive the "impossible" qualia again.

Free will used to feel impossible but now that I understand free will as related to e.g. the 5-and-10 problem it's more... manipulable somehow.

emmab's Shortform

standard model of PA = schelling model of PA?

Debate on Instrumental Convergence between LeCun, Russell, Bengio, Zador, and More
5. A second machine, designed solely to neutralize an evil super-intelligent machine will win every time, if given similar amounts of computing resources (because specialized machines always beat general ones).

This implies you have some resource you didn't fully imbue to the first AI, that you still have available to imbue to the second. What is that resource?

Who lacks the qualia of consciousness?

I feel a sense of impossibility that "anything could exist at all".

I feel a sense of impossibility when I contemplate the recursive nature of perceiving myself perceiving thoughts.

I feel a sense of impossibility about something unspeakable that comes before and is outside anything else.

How are we sure we mean the same thing by the word consciousness though? All I can tell for sure is that ppl think consciousness is "impossible" (cus they try to invent quantum phlogiston to explain it), and something about consciousness engendering moral worth.

I don't think I'd have less moral worth if I couldn't recognize myself in a mirror. I still have moral worth when I'm not introspecting.

I get the sense of impossibility but I get it about lots of things, e.g. Greg Egan's dust from permutation city.

I feel like maybe I'm missing something other people are experiencing here, but maybe not.

emmab's Shortform

spectrum of qualia of rapid muscle movement:

1. wiggle back and forth with no delay

2. effort required to make individual movements one in a row

some actions are only sometimes available to me in form #2 e.g. glossolalia, patterns of rapid eye movement

sometimes it seems like a matter of training e.g. learning to wiggle my ears

Paternal Formats

I've been experimenting a bit with using vimwiki: https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki

This topic (affordance/encoding) is one of the universal entry points to systemization of fully general agency.

Contest: $1,000 for good questions to ask to an Oracle AI

Submission: low bandwidth oracle, ask:

IFF I'm going to die with P>80% in the next 10 years while >80% (modulo natural death rate) of the rest of humanity survives for at least 5 more years then, was what killed me in the reference class:

  • disease
  • mechanical/gross-physical accident
  • murdered
  • other

Repeat to drill down and know the most important hedges for personal survival.

The "rest of humanity survives" condition reduces the chance the question becomes entangled with the eschaton.

i.e. I'm pointing out that selfish utility functions are less personally or humanity-existentially dangerous to ask the oracle questions relevant to in cases where concerns are forced to be local (in this case, forced-local because you died before the eschaton). However the answers still might be dangerous to people near you.

i.e. Selfish deals with the devil might not destroy the world if they're banal in the grand scheme of things.

Arbital Scrape V2

Decided to upload source to github now that I know arbital's license: https://github.com/emma-borhanian/arbital-scrape

Arbital Scrape V2

Licensed under MIT and Unlicense. Updated the drive/mega links.

Arbital Scrape V2

Thanks for hosting, added link to post.

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