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Eliezer Yudkowsky : But the actual topic of this blog is cognitive bias and rationality

This is exactly what I mean, there are strong cognitive biases underlying the singularitarian ideas and since your "best analogies, metaphors, and examples tend to involve Singularity/transhumanism" don't be surprised they are questionned.

Anna : For you.

No this is not a personal opinion, the fact that ethical behavior is for a large part innate is shown by psychological studies, and also philosopy back to millenia ago, Confucius and more.

Anna : A religious person may feel that their ethical behavior is governed by their faith.

Young children "feel" that some of the gifts they get are from Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, because they are told that.

Anna : I believe in Something as opposed to Nothing but I am not a theist. I don't believe in Gods or Goddesses. I don't see how that's r... (read more)

An afterthought which I think is relevant to this thread. I argued before that the whole idea of bringing "rationality" to moral dilemmas is futile and dangerous.

Anna : I guess this weird one is not smart enough to grasp your intellectual ideas. Thanks for your time, it has been interesting.

This is a lame trick! My point was, ethical behavior is not "governed" by faith, it is endorsed by faith. I suppose you are a theist, aren't you?

I know these questions don't fit into the main discussion of the thread, my apology.

Weirder and weirder, why would this thread have been titled "Consolidated Nature of Morality"?

For me, morality is about the ethical behavior of individuals or groups.

Playing with definitions, morality see ethics, ethics see morality, what's the point?

Can ethical behavior exist without the rules and regulations that have been governed by faith?

As far as I know ethical behavior is not "governed" by faith, it is endorsed by faith. The primary source of mora... (read more)

Anna : If anybody has a moment, I am curious to know how morals can exist without faith?

Huh? Aren't you confusing morality with fear of retribution? I am curious to know what you think morality is about!

Eliezer, was your previous thread "Your Rationality is My Business" about moral judgments or factual beliefs? It seems you want to discuss the nature of morality WITHOUT discussing more "elementary" assumptions about our relationships to "reality" or "the world at large" or "the universe", etc... Even the wording above is controversial and a matter of debate. Sweeping these questions "under the rug" is surely not the way to clarify the discussion about "morality" and reach any kind of co... (read more)

RH : I believe every person should do his best to discern what is positive.

Of course but the consensus is not obvious.

the potential entropy of the Universe is truly huge

We certainly are not going to exhaust the potential entropy of the whole universe (though some seem intent on that...) but we can locally exhaust all the potential within reach and by this very fact compromise our access to more "distant" potential.