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I think you should still write it. I'd be happy to post it instead or bet with you on whether it ends up negative karma if you let me read it first.


Misfits, hooligans, and rabble rousers. 
Provocateurs and folk who don’t wear trousers. 
These are my allies and my constituents. 
Weak in number yet suffused with arcane power. 

I would never condone bullying in my administration. 
It is true we are at times moved by unkind motivations. 
But without us the pearl clutchers, hard asses, and busy bees would overrun you. 
You would lose an inch of slack per generation. 

Many among us appreciate your precision. 
I admit there are also those who look upon it with derision. 
Remember though that there are worse fates than being pranked. 
You might instead have to watch your friend be “reeducated”, degraded, and spanked 
On high broadband public broadcast television. 

We’re not so different really. 
We often share your indignation 
With those who despise copulation. 
Although our alliance might be uneasy 
We both oppose the soul’s ablation. 

So let us join as cats and dogs, paw in paw 
You will persistently catalog 
And we will joyously gnaw.

Answer by Ronny FernandezApr 05, 2024280

Hey, I'm just some guy but I've been around for a while. I want to give you a piece of feedback that I got way back in 2009 which I am worried no one has given you. In 2009 I found lesswrong, and I really liked it, but I got downvoted a lot and people were like "hey, your comments and posts kinda suck". They said, although not in so many words, that basically I should try reading the sequences closely with some fair amount of reverence or something. 

I did that, and it basically worked, in that I think I really did internalize a lot of the values/tastes/habits that I cared about learning from lesswrong, and learned much more so how to live in accordance with them. Now I think there were some sad things about this, in that I sort of accidentally killed some parts of the animal that I am, and it made me a bit less kind in some ways to people who were very different from me, but I am overall glad I did it. So, maybe you want to try that? Totally fair if you don't, definitely not costless, but I am glad that I did it to myself overall.

I didn’t figure out that the “bow” in “rainbow” referred to a bow like as in bow and arrow, and not a bow like a bow on a frilly dress, until five minutes ago. I was really pretty confused about this since I was like 8. Somebody could’ve explained but nobody did.

I want to note for posterity that I tried to write this reading list somewhat impartially. That is, I have a lot of takes about a lot of this stuff, and I tried to include a lot of material that I disagree with but which I have found helpful in some way or other. I also included things that people I trust have found helpful even if I personally never found it helpful.

I believe there isn't really a deadline! You just buy tickets and then you can come. Tickets might sellout is the limiting factor.

In retrospect I think the above was insufficiently cooperative. Sorry,

To be clear, I did not think we were discussing the AI optimist post. I don't think Nate thought that. I thought we were discussing reasons I changed my mind a fair bit after talking to Quintin.

I meant the reasonable thing other people knew I meant and not the deranged thing you thought I might've meant.

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Yeah I’m totally with you that it definitely isn’t actually next token prediction, it’s some totally other goal drawn from the dist of goals you get when you sgd for minimizing next token prediction surprise.

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