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This doesn't appear to be what's usually meant by "consequentialism"?
Oh, nice! I guess this is basically saying the same thing as that, I'll add a link.
Oh wow I'd forgotten about that!
Yes, I think I'd agree with that.
Whether you actually look up the answer seems irrelevant? Is it that misleading the Lonesome is easier if the Collective knows the answer?
I think the idea is that while you can lie about this, in reality things go fairly differently in cases where you looked it up in a way that's noticeable.
Does it seem like it's working as practice?
Hm, not really I guess. (Oops, I guess I forgot to mention that part!)
I've run this several times at OBNYC, it's gone pretty well. Generally we didn't bother with scoring. One issue with scoring is needing to come up with what counts for numerical questions. Although we tried to do that anyway, because we wanted to score individual questions even if we weren't keeping score overall. For many things you can use "order of magnitude and first digit", but that doesn't work well for everything. Dates we generally did plus or minus 10 years. But it may need to vary a bit depending on just what the question. Maybe plus or minus some fixed percentage for many of them? (10%? 20%?) We did plus or minus an inch for a question about Conan O'Brien's height.
One modification that got suggested at the most recent one was to say that on a 1, you look up the answer and lie; this is so that when you say "we looked it up" this is less informative. We never actually rolled a 1 after making this change, however. Perhaps one should add lookups on 5 as well if you're doing this, to really make it uninformative? (So that the truth:lie ratio is 2:1 regardless of whether you're doing a lookup or not.)
(At earlier ones we had for a while a "no talking about the die roll" rule that would make this unnecessary, but people didn't like that.)
Having a good source of questions has been a little bit of a problem. The provided list isn't that great -- we've used questions from our copy of Wits & Wagers, or lists online, or just making ones up. Make sure you have some sort of question source!
We could also point to sleepwalkers of various sorts: even when executing complex actions (like murdering someone), I've never seen any accounts which mention deeply felt emotions. (WP emphasizes their dullness and apathetic affect.)
Nitpick: Sleepwalking proper apparently happens during non-REM sleep; acting out a dream during REM sleep is different and has its own name. Although it seems like sleepwalkers may also be dreaming somehow even though they aren't in REM sleep? I don't know -- this is definitely not my area -- and arguably none of this is relevant to the original point; but I thought I should point it out.
Ha! OK, that is indeed nasty. Yeah I guess CASes can solve this kind of problem these days, can't they? Well -- I say "these days" as if it this hasn't been the case for, like, my entire life, I've just never gotten used to making routine use of them...
Unfortunately, no. I see that I have a largely complete draft written from 7 years ago, but I'm not sure if I'd still want to post it in that form. Maybe worth reviewing at some point.