Heisenberg versus quarks is one of the best lifelong physics thinkers, encountering one of the most subtle topics in physics. When he says
The questions about the statistics of quarks, about the forces that hold them together, about the particles corresponding to these forces, about the reasons why quarks never appear as free particles, about the pair-creation of quarks in the interior of the elementary particle -- all these questions are more or less left in obscurity.
... he is raising all the right questions, and their resolution required a field theory with completely unprecedented behaviors. The statistics of quarks required a new threefold quantum property, "color"; the forces that hold them together were described by a new kind of quantum field, a strongly coupled Yang-Mills field; the particles corresponding to those forces are the gluons, and like quarks, they never appear as free particles, because of a new behavior, "confinement".
The deeper story here is a struggle of paradigms in the 1960s, between the old search for the most elementary particles, and the idea of a "nuclear democracy" of transformations among a large number of equally fundamental particle species. We now see those many particle types as due to different combinations of quarks, but at the time no-one understood how quarks could literally be particles (for the reasons touched on by Heisenberg), and they were instead treated as bookkeeping devices, akin to conserved quantities.
The quark theorists won, once the gauge theory of gluons was figured out; but nuclear democracy (in the guise of "S-matrix theory", pioneered by Heisenberg) left its mark too, because it gave rise to string theory. They aren't even completely distinct paradigms; there are very close relationships between gauge theory and string theory, though not close enough that we know exactly what string theory corresponds to the quarks and gluons of the standard model.
Thanks for the context on the physics! So it sounds like I wasn't entirely fair to Heisenberg, that this was a genuinely difficult conceptual issue that "could've gone either way"?
The view that Heisenberg advocates - reductionism had reached a limit, and a new paradigm was needed - was a highly influential school of thought in the 1960s. In particle physics, there is a mathematical object called the S-matrix (scattering matrix), which tabulates scattering amplitudes (the quasiprobability that if these N particles enter a collision, these other M particles will be what comes out). Quantum electrodynamics (a theory with electrons and photons, let's say) is a prototypical quantum field theory in which the S-matrix can be calculated from the stipulation that electrons and photons are fundamental. For the weak interactions (later unified with electromagnetism), this reductionist method also works.
But for the strong interactions, field theory looked intractable, and a new philosophy was advanced that the S-matrix itself should be the central mathematical object in the theory. Remember that quarks were never seen by themselves, only protons, neutrons, and a hundred other types of "hadron". The idea of nuclear democracy was that the S-matrix for these hundred seemingly equi-fundamental particle species, would be derived from postulates about the properties of the S-matrix, rather than from an underlying field theory. This was called the bootstrap program, it is how the basic formulae of string theory were discovered (before they had even been identified as arising from strings), and it's still used to study the S-matrix of computationally intractable theories.
These days, the philosophy that the S-matrix is primary, still has some credibility in quantum gravity. Here the problem is not that we can't identify ultimate constituents, but rather that the very idea of points of space-time seems problematic, because of quantum fluctuations in the metric. The counterpart of the 1960s skepticism about quarks, would be that the holographic boundary of space-time is fundamental. For example, in the AdS/CFT correspondence, scattering events in Anti de Sitter space (in which particles approach each other "from the boundary", interact, and then head back to the boundary) can be calculated entirely within the boundary CFT, without any reference to AdS space at all, which is regarded as emergent from the boundary space. The research program of celestial holography is an attempt to develop the same perspective within the physically relevant case of flat space-time. The whole universe that we see, would be a hologram built nonlocally from entanglement within a lower-dimensional space...
The eventual validation of quarks as particles might seem like a sign that this radical version of the holographic philosophy will also be wrong in the end, and perhaps it will be. But it really shows the extent to which the late thoughts of Heisenberg are still relevant. Holographic boundaries are the new S-matrix, they are a construct which has made quantum gravity uniquely tractable, and it's reasonable to ask if they should be treated as fundamental, just as it was indeed entirely reasonable for Heisenberg and the other S-matrix theorists to ask whether the S-matrix itself is the final word.
I see, thanks again for the context! The book doesn't mention S-matrices (at least not by name), and it wasn't clear to me from reading it whether Heisenberg was particularly active scientifically by the 60's/70's or whether he was just some old guy ranting in the corner. I guess that's the risk of reading primary sources without the proper context.
How did Einstein and Heisenberg go so wrong?
I don't know about Heisenberg, but a common answer for Einstein is the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton, which took the best minds of the day, and freed them from practical concerns about justifying their research interests or talking to outside researchers, apparently causing them to be increasingly less productive & out of touch from the rest of their respective fields.
From Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman
When I was at Princeton in the 1940s I could see what happened to those great minds at the Institute for Advanced Study, who had been specially selected for their tremendous brains and were now given this opportunity to sit in this lovely house by the woods there, with no classes to teach, with no obligations whatsoever. These poor bastards could now sit and think clearly all by themselves, OK? So they don’t get an idea for a while: They have every opportunity to do something, and they’re not getting any ideas. I believe that in a situation like this a kind of guilt or depression worms inside of you, and you begin to worry about not getting any ideas. And nothing happens. Still no ideas come.
Nothing happens because there’s not enough real activity and challenge: You’re not in contact with the experimental guys. You don’t have to think how to answer questions from the students. Nothing!
Hamming also writes about the IAS
When you are famous it is hard to work on small problems. This is what did Shannon in. After information theory, what do you do for an encore?
The great scientists often make this error. They fail to continue to plant the little acorns from which the mighty oak trees grow. They try to get the big thing right off. And that isn’t the way things go. So that is another reason why you find that when you get early recognition it seems to sterilize you. In fact I will give you my favorite quotation of many years. The Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, in my opinion, has ruined more good scientists than any institution has created, judged by what they did before they came and judged by what they did after. Not that they weren’t good afterwards, but they were superb before they got there and were only good afterwards.
And notes a similar effect of nobel prizes on academics' work
But let me say why age seems to have the effect it does. In the first place if you do some good work you will find yourself on all kinds of committees and unable to do any more work. You may find yourself as I saw Brattain when he got a Nobel Prize. The day the prize was announced we all assembled in Arnold Auditorium; all 3 winners [Shockley, Bardeen, & Brattain] got up and made speeches. The third one, Brattain, practically with tears in his eyes, said, “I know about this Nobel-Prize effect and I am not going to let it affect me; I am going to remain good old Walter Brattain.” Well, I said to myself, “That is nice.” But in a few weeks I saw it was affecting him. Now he could only work on great problems.
and he attributes the decline in Shannon's career to a similar effect from getting tenure & a blank check from MIT
Shannon, I believe, ruined himself. In fact when he left Bell Labs [for MIT, which offered him tenure + a blank check], I said, “That’s the end of Shannon’s scientific career.” I received a lot of flak from my friends who said that Shannon was just as smart as ever. I said, “Yes, he’ll be just as smart, but that’s the end of his scientific career”, and I truly believe it was.
Of course, as we see above, he also attributes Shannon's decline to not being willing to work on smaller problems. These two problems could exacerbate each other, so they're not entirely incompatible.
That might explain why Einstein wasn't very productive in his last decades, but his opposition to the uncertainty principle etc. predates his tenure at the IAS. Maybe he would've come around had he been in a more productive setting? I kind of doubt it -- it seems to have been a pretty deep-seated, philosophical disagreement -- but who knows.
Heisenberg spent his later career as head of the Max Planck Institute. I can't imagine many scientists enjoy administrative duties, but he does seem to have had more contact with the rest of the scientific world than Einstein did.
The title of this book is clickbait. "Encounters with Einstein" is a short collection of lectures given or written by Werner Heisenberg in the 1970's, only one of which discusses Einstein.[1] The remaining lectures discuss various aspects of the history and development of quantum mechanics and science in general: tradition and concepts in science; Heisenberg's time in Göttingen, where he, Born and Jordan developed matrix mechanics; a history of cosmic ray science, and more.
One thread comes up repeatedly in the lectures: the role of concepts in science, and in particular, the concept of an elementary particle. (You get the sense that he would harp on this point to whoever would listen.) Much progress in science has come from asking what things consist of, and whether they can be broken down into smaller pieces: molecules, atoms, then electrons and protons in the early 20th century. It was believed that these elementary particles were truly immutable, that their number was always constant. This proved incorrect, though. The discoveries of matter-antimatter pair production and nuclear decay showed that while mass-energy, momentum, charge, etc. might be conserved, the number of particles was not. Cosmic ray events, in which the collision of two highly energetic particles releases a shower of secondary particles through the transformation of energy into matter, also demonstrated this conclusively. Heisenberg argues that it thus makes little sense to talk of "dividing" particles into their constituent parts any longer:
A proton, for example, could be made up of neutron and pion, or Λ-hyperon and kaon, or out of two nucleons and an anti-nucleon; it would be simplest of all to say that a proton just consists of continuous matter, and all these statements are equally correct or equally false. The difference between elementary and composite particles has thus basically disappeared. (p. 73)
The pervasive Democritean idea that everything can be decomposed into some indivisible, immutable "atoms" must, he claims, be rejected: "good physics is unconsciously being spoiled by bad philosophy." How should we instead conceptualize matter? He prefers to describe it as a "spectrum," analogous to the spectra of atoms or molecules. The different particles that we observe correspond to particular stationary states, with transformations between them determined by the relevant symmetries and conservation laws. These symmetries and the dynamics they lead to would then be the primary objects of study for physics.
This leads us to the theory of quarks.[2] Heisenberg is not a fan:
Here the question has obviously been asked, "What do protons consist of?" But it has been forgotten in the process, that the term consist of only has a halfway clear meaning if we are able to dissect the particle in question, with a small expenditure of energy, into constituents whose rest mass is very much greater than this energy-cost; otherwise, the term consist of has lost its meaning. And that is the situation with protons. (p. 83)
He addresses the experimental evidence in favor of quarks,[3] arguing that just because a theory can explain some narrow set of experiments does not mean we should immediately jump to adopt it. He draws an analogy to the pre-Bohr theory that atoms are composed of harmonic oscillators. Woldemar Voigt used this theory to develop complex formulas predicting certain properties of the optical spectra of atoms, predictions which closely matched experiments. When Heisenberg and Jordan later tried to model these properties using quantum mechanics, they found the exact same formulas. "But," he says, "the Voigtian theory contributed nothing to the understanding of atomic structure." The equivalence between the oscillator theory and quantum mechanics was a purely formal, mathematical one, as they both lead to a system of coupled linear equations whose parameters Voigt could pick to match experiments.
Voigt had made phenomenological use of a certain aspect of the oscillator hypothesis, and had either ignored all the other discrepancies of this model, or deliberately left them in obscurity. Thus he had simply not taken his hypothesis in real earnest. In the same way, I fear that the quark hypothesis is just not taken seriously by its exponents. The questions about the statistics of quarks, about the forces that hold them together, about the particles corresponding to these forces, about the reasons why quarks never appear as free particles, about the pair-creation of quarks in the interior of the elementary particle -- all these questions are more or less left in obscurity. (p. 85)
I don't know nearly enough physics to evaluate Heisenberg's arguments on a technical level (I'd be interested to hear from people who do!). Conceptually, though, they seem fairly convincing. Of course, reality turned out the other way: quarks are by now more or less universally accepted as part of the Standard Model of particle physics. Heisenberg died in 1976; I have to wonder at what point he would have updated had he lived to see the theory fully developed.
The book covers a range of other topics; most interesting to me was Heisenberg's discussion of the development of new theories in science. He asks, "why, at the very first moment of their appearance, and especially for him who first sees them, the correct closed theory possesses an enormous persuasive power, long before the conceptual or even the mathematical foundations are completely clarified, and long before it could be said that many experiments had confirmed it?" (By "correct closed theory" he means a consistent mathematical theory that fully and accurately describes some large set of phenomena, at least within some bounded conceptual domain: he gives Newtonian mechanics, special relativity, Gibbs's theory of heat, and the Dirac-von Neumann axiomatization of quantum mechanics as examples.) Heisenberg's somewhat cryptic answer is that "the conceptual systems under consideration undoubtedly form a discrete, not a continuous, manifold." In other words:
In all probability, the decisive precondition here is that the physicists most intimately acquainted with the relevant field of experience have felt very clearly, on the one hand, that the phenomena of this field are closely connected and cannot be understood independently of each other, while this very connection, on the other, resists interpretation within the framework of existing concepts. The attempt, nonetheless, to effect such an interpretation, has repeatedly led these physicists to assumptions that harbor contradictions, or to wholly obscure distinctions of cases, or to an impenetrable tangle of semi-empirical formulae, of which it is really quite evident that they cannot be correct... The surprise produced by the right proposal, the discovery that "yes, that could actually be true," thus gives it from the very outset a great power of persuasion. (p. 127-129)
This sounds very much like a description of Thomas Kuhn's crises and paradigm shifts, translated into a much more personal and psychological setting. "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" was published in 1962; Heisenberg doesn't cite it[4] but he could very well have been familiar with its ideas.
Heisenberg doesn't mention quarks in this chapter, but they would seem to be a good example of what he describes: a set of confusing but highly interrelated observations and a theory that unifies and explains many of them. (Quarks were initially proposed as a way of simplifying and organizing the extensive "particle zoo" of putative elementary particles that physicists had identified by the 60's.[5]) I don't know what Gell-Mann and Zweig experienced when they proposed the quark model in 1964, whether they had the sort of "eureka" moment that Heisenberg describes. (Obviously, the theory did not have any sort of "enormous persuasive power" for Heisenberg.) Of course, just like many other scientific revolutions, the adoption of quark theory was a slow, messy process, regardless of how its originators may have felt. The original proposals only included three flavors of quark (up, down, strange): the other three (charm, top, bottom) were added to the theory over the subsequent decade. And as Heisenberg points out, the theory had some major theoretical and empirical weaknesses at first, which were only slowly resolved. Regardless, the chapter is an interesting discussion of the psychological process of scientific discovery from someone with extensive first-hand experience.
The lecture from which the book takes its overall title opens with the disclaimer that "The word encounters here must be taken to refer, not only to personal meetings, but also to encounters with Einstein's work." (I suppose with that definition the title can indeed be applied to the entire book, as well as to most of 20th century physics.) He did meet Einstein a few times, though, each time struggling to convince him of the conceptual shifts required by quantum theory. In 1926 he discussed with Einstein how quantum mechanics contains no notion of an "electron path," with electrons instead jumping discontinuously between states. In 1927 at the famous Solvay Conference he, Bohr, and Pauli contended with Einstein's attacks on the uncertainty principle. And much later in 1954 he argued with him about whether quantum theory must be a consequence of some unified field theory, as Einstein thought, or whether quantum theory was itself fundamental. Einstein, of course, famously stuck to his maxim that "God does not play dice" for the rest of his life.
One thing very prominently not discussed in the book is what Heisenberg did during the Second World War. Unlike most top scientists, he stayed in Germany throughout the war. He alludes to this only once, mentioning as an aside that his institute "was engaged during the war in work on the construction of an atomic reactor." That's all we get, though, so this story will have to wait for a different book review.[6]
Heisenberg is right, of course, about the importance of conceptual frames in science and in human reasoning in general. Progress often comes about by the introduction of new concepts or new ways of thinking about a domain. And both Einstein and, unknowingly, Heisenberg himself demonstrate the risk of becoming too attached to a set of concepts that don't match reality. How did Einstein and Heisenberg go so wrong? Heisenberg, at least, might have the excuse of age: he was in his late 60's and 70's when the theory of quarks was developed. But Einstein spent decades struggling with quantum physics.
I don't have a great answer to this question. I'm sure an immense amount has been written about Einstein's failure to accept quantum physics, of which I've read very little. For me, the important point is whether Einstein and Heisenberg changed -- maybe their research taste degraded with age, or they became too invested in particular theories, or too confident in their own instincts -- or whether they simply stayed the same while physics moved past them. If it's the former, then the lesson to take away from this is one of intellectual humility (and also that we should cure aging). If it's the latter, though, then their example suggests to me that research taste may be much more contextual than we typically think.[7] Maybe they developed some set of mental tools, implicit or explicit conceptual frames, etc. that were very well-suited to the scientific problems they dealt with in their youth, but which failed them when physics moved on to new settings. It's tempting to take away the lesson that one should try to explore widely and not become too attached to any one way of doing things. But this is the classic explore-exploit tradeoff: it seems likely to me that Heisenberg and Einstein wouldn't have been able to make the discoveries they did if they hadn't invested heavily in their particular mental habits and concepts. The only solution, for humans at least, is specialization: different people develop different approaches, and we hope that collectively we'll find good ones.
Or maybe they were just old. 🤷
I'm reminded of a YouTuber I sometimes watch, GothamChess, who will often give his videos sensational titles like "Magnus Carlsen does it again!!!", luring in viewers with a famous name when only a small part of the video covers Carlsen.
Quarks were first proposed in 1964 independently by Murray Gell-Mann and George Zweig, around a decade before the lectures in this book were given.
According to Wikipedia, the earliest empirical evidence for quarks was found in 1968, but it only became really conclusive in 1974.
He does, however, mention an addition rule in quantum mechanics that was "derived by Thomas and Kuhn" -- no relation.
Wolfgang Pauli reportedly said, "Had I foreseen this, I would have gone into botany."
Okay, fine, one story from Wikipedia: apparently in 1944 the US sent Moe Berg, professional baseball player and spy, to attend a lecture Heisenberg was giving in Switzerland, with instructions to assassinate him if it seemed that Germany was close to developing an atomic bomb.
Of course the weak version of this is obvious: scientists working in one field won't have particularly great ideas about a totally different one unless they're physicists. But particle physics was Heisenberg's bread and butter, and he still ended up on the wrong side of the quark debate despite having what we have to assume was exceptional research taste in the field.