This is a standard instance of the problem of local bullies. Noah Smith has remarked on it:
A decade ago, when I was first starting out as a blogger, I wrote a post arguing that the libertarian idea of freedom is incomplete. Libertarians of the Robert Nozick variety tend to conceive of society as having only two levels — government, and individuals. In this conception, freedoms can only be taken away by the government. But I argued that there are key mezzanine institutions — corporations, churches, universities, schools, and so on — that sit somewhere between government and the individual, and hold real power over individuals, and that this power shouldn’t be ignored when we think about what makes for a free society. If mezzanine institutions oppress individuals, that’s real systematic oppression, and a real loss of human freedom, even if the government stands back and washes its hands of the whole situation.
I doubt I managed to convince many libertarians. But today, I see some progressives arguing for the old libertarian idea that if the government isn’t throwing you in jail, your freedoms haven’t been abridged. Conservatives’ complaints that their “free speech” is being stifled by social media platforms are often met with an invocation of the famous XKCD comic where a stick figure reminds us that “The 1st Amendment doesn’t shield you from criticism or consequences.”
And of course that’s perfectly correct. The 1st Amendment doesn’t shield you from social consequences. But is the kind of speech protection offered by the 1st Amendment the only protection that we could ever want or need? If the entire world stood ready to fire you, ostracize you, and leave you friendless and impoverished for saying you liked kittens, would you really be free?
[...] What the legal implications of that realization should be, I don’t quite know, but I think it’s important that we recognize the power of non-governmental institutions and the value of freedom from oppression by those institutions.
It sounds like you and I are fairly politically aligned. For me, my libertarian streak is not just about preventing authoritarianism in government, but preventing authoritarianism anywhere. Both your and Aella's proposed policies increase government power, but (arguably) decrease authoritarianism overall by restricting the power of monopolies.
More broadly I think restricting monopoly power is one of the most defensible uses of government authority.
(Right now I think the US government, and most developed-country governments for that matter, are simultaneously too powerful and too unwilling to take antitrust action.)
If you want to maintain a libertarian approach, the thing to do would be to investigate in what way the monopolists' market position is due to government intervention. Think of business plans that would break the monopoly, find the obstacles that block them, and figure out if the obstacles come from government actions that violate libertarian principles.
If they do, then see what you can do about them. Ideally get rid of them, but if that's infeasible, then perhaps you can consider a principle that, to the extent that a monopoly is propped up by government suppression of competition, some proportional amount of government regulation of that monopoly might be permissible. (If, for example, company X is granted a complete monopoly by fiat, then price controls on company X seem ... distasteful, of course, but possibly appropriate.) Or perhaps you wouldn't go so far as to support such regulation, but at least you wouldn't put effort into opposing it.
For payment processing in particular, I think Yaron Brook commented that banking was more heavily regulated than any other industry except perhaps nuclear reactors. Subtract some hyperbole and my impression is that it's roughly correct. Presumably this creates large barriers to entry. If that's the case, then some laws to force payment processors to be "fair" might be tolerable.
If you want to maintain a libertarian approach, the thing to do would be to investigate in what way the monopolists' market position is due to government intervention.
This is true if "wanting to maintain a libertarian approach" is already a goal but wouldn't it be better epistemics to investigate the cause monopolists market position without the already fixed opinion that it will be due to government intervention? Having that as a strong prior is fine of course but not something you "want" to be true.
I see how the wording of that sentence could be interpreted that way. Wasn't my intention; by "in what way" I meant to encompass "to what degree", and the answer could be "to a small or negligible degree". I'll note that in the next sentence I say "if the obstacles come from government intervention", and again "If they do" in the sentence after that.
I usually agree with that approach, but I'm not convinced it applies in this case, where the monopolist gets a benefit purely from having a larger market share. I agree that if this situation was created by the government in the first place that would be a better place to target, but my understanding is that this is just a first-mover advantage for Audible. I would expect payment processors to take somewhere around 3%, but Audible takes 60% even with an exclusivity deal.
Part of this is also presumably advertising (being on Audible.com is worth a lot, and I think it's fine that Audible benefits from creating that advertising channel), so I wouldn't expect the cost of publishing an audiobook to drop to the cost of storage and distribution, but I'm skeptical that 60% is where the market would settle without a monopoly.
I usually agree with that approach, but I’m not convinced it applies in this case, where the monopolist gets a benefit purely from having a larger market share.
Copyright is a government-granted monopoly. Audible can only even exist because the government said that you're not allowed to copy things. And it can only have exclusivity contracts because the things it sells can't be legally copied in the absence of a contract.
That's a good point. Maybe my actual least-libertarian belief is that copyright law is probably fine.
I think you could have this same problem with physical goods and services to though, as long as the government enforces contracts.
Say I want to sell tickets to a concert and have the option of listing with TicketMonopolist[1] which has 81% of the market and will charge me 60% of the cost of a ticket if I give them an exclusivity deal or 75% if I list it anywhere else, and I could list it at TicketCompetitor (19% of the market) and they will only charge me 50%. This is exactly the same deal as with audiobooks (the profit-maximizing decision is to only list with the monopolist), and I think most libertarians would agree that it's legitimate for the government to prevent people without tickets from attending the concert (if the venue wanted them to).
In case anyone is curious, TicketMaster is only 63% of the online ticket sales market but seems to use exclusivity deals in an even sketchier way than Audible does.
I agree that the Ticketmaster scenario demonstrates the problem. But then, I have a lot of libertarian sympathies, but I'm not really libertarian.
I do observe, however, that only certain markets work that way. It seems that those are markets where the monopolist is much larger than the individual seller. That covers companies like Ticketmaster (Madison Square Garden is big, but it's nothing compared to Ticketmaster), Amazon, and Nintendo. But if some car dealership tried to force Toyota into an exclusivity deal, Toyota would just say "no, we're fine having our own dealers"--they're big enough to have economy of scale even without the reseller. Also, the product can't be a commodity--forcing a farmer into an exclusivity deal with a supermarket wouldn't do much good, since other supermarkets are fine with other farmers. Even forcing Kraft into an exclusivity deal wouldn't do much good.
I can't actually think of a lot of scenarios other than intellectual property, tickets, and the non-IP part of Amazon where this happens.
Can someone create a meta-service that combines the offerings from TicketMonopolist and TicketCompetitor? Sort of like how chat clients like Adium/Pidgin had interfaces to lots of different messaging protocols and put all your contacts and conversations together. If it worked well, then the market might shift to lots of customers using the meta-service; and then, since TicketMonopolist charges higher prices, presumably it would start losing market share.
Something like this has been tried a few times with Craigslist, with services that grab data from it and provide a better interface: example. Craigslist seems to have used (a) terms of service requirements and (b) copyright claims to the users' posts, for legal arguments. I think the copyright claim, for ads that are frequently 1-3 sentences, is risible (morally speaking). As for terms of service... I'm skeptical that the terms can simultaneously (1) be sane and enforceable, (2) allow customers to do what they currently do, and (3) prevent customers from using meta-services that collect the data and do things with it. (Versions of (3) that come to mind tend to forbid antivirus scanners, accessibility tools like screen readers, and web browsers in general.)
I think any aggregator has the same problem customers do: There's only one place to buy the tickets. If the aggregator wants to sell tickets, they have to buy them from TicketMonopolist (and pay their fees), so they can't sell tickets any cheaper without losing money.
For audio books, there are a bunch of distributors like this. For example, PublishDrive charges a monthly fee and distributes to every platform "for free", but they can only give their customers the amount of money that Audible gives them, and Audible only gives them 25% royalties[1] (since they're not exclusive).
For what it's worth, PublishDrive passes on "up to" 45% of royalties for audiobooks on Apple Books, which is actually higher than ACX's exclusive rate.
The value-add of the aggregator, compared to TicketMonopolist, would be finding tickets in the cases where they're available at one of the competitors. The aggregator would charge either a nominal fee or even zero fee when the customer ends up buying tickets that come from TicketMonopolist. Either there's an upfront or subscription cost for using the aggregator, or they can charge a fee specifically on the non-Monopolist tickets.
(I assume part of the picture is that customers find it highly inconvenient to go to more than one place to find their tickets—otherwise TicketMonopolist couldn't charge much of a premium, hosts would just use the competitors and the customers would find them there.)
One might very well argue that copyright itself is a government granted monopoly that, under libertarian principles, ought not to exist.
Probably both.
Price: I would expect the market price for audio book distribution to be much lower if there was real competition. Right now ACX charges 60% of the value of an audiobook just to list it on Audible.com, and other sites can't really compete on price since listing it elsewhere causes the writer to lose money. At this point, I expect anyone listing on other sites to be doing it for ideological reasons, so there's no reason for Audible's competitors to compete on price either (since they can't win).
Features: Audible and Kindle are both laughably bad apps[1] for how insanely profitable they are, but consumers can't switch apps because the books they want are only on Audible. If Audible had to actually compete for customers, I expect that their apps would be significantly better.
Audible's pricing model is also a scam[2] and I expect that would be hard to maintain under real competition too.
The Kindle app has trouble downloading ebooks, and fails to load previously-downloaded ebooks about 25% of the time. To fix this, you have to open and close the app a few times, or delete the book and download it again.
On the consumer-side, they charge you a monthly fee for extremely valuable monopoly money that they burn if you ever cancel. On the writer-side, they decide how much to pay you, and if a customer pays with credits, you get very little money.
[apologies - this was a low-effort comment, and did not address the context of the OP and the underlying question ]
"bad" is only meaningful relative to some other reachable situation. Always need to specify "compared to what".
I note that you leave out a number of groups in your examples of "whom" - bystanders, consumers who are not customers, potential future creators or customers, etc...
I'd say the status quo is amazingly great for almost everyone, compared to just a few centuries ago. Individually, most of them didn't exist back then, and they now have a positive-value life. Distributionally, any percentile on any dimension today is better off than a comparable group in history.
I note that you leave out a number of groups in your examples of “whom”—bystanders, consumers who are not customers, potential future creators or customers, etc...
Sure. The two examples I gave were just the two most obvious examples.
“bad” is only meaningful relative to some other reachable situation. Always need to specify “compared to what”.
Compared to… whatever other state of affairs OP thinks is possible (e.g. the one that will obtain if his proposed policies are enacted).
I’d say the status quo is amazingly great for almost everyone, compared to just a few centuries ago.
True but irrelevant to the discussion.
* With sufficiently large and entrenched companies.
There's a semi-common meme on Twitter where people share their most X opinion, where X is a group the poster doesn't identify with; or sometimes my least X opinion, where X is a group they do identify with.
In that spirit, my least libertarian opinion is that exclusivity deals with sufficiently entrenched companies[1] are bad and should be illegal[2].
To make it even less libertarian, I think it should be an unfair playing field and their competitors should be allowed to pay for exclusivity[3]. If you're a new entrant to a market, an exclusivity deal might be the only way you can break in, and more competition is good[4].
The problem with exclusivity deals with a company that already has a monopoly is that the cost is much higher for a new entrant than the monopolist.
I hunted down some stats for market share and some royalty rates for the top platforms:
Platform | Market Share | Normal Royalty | Exclusive Royalty |
Audible | 63% | 25% | 40% |
Apple[5] | 18% | 25%[5] | 40%[5] |
10% | 52% | 52% | |
Other | 8% | Up to 50% | N/A |
Note that you can get Audible's exclusive rate by being exclusive to ACX[6], an Audible-owned company which also distributes to Apple and Amazon.
So, say you want to sell $10,000 worth of audiobook to a market where customers are 100% loyal to the platforms they used in 2021. Your choices are:
Strategy | Average Royalty Rate | Market Access | Total Income |
ACX Exclusive | 40% | 81% | $3,240 |
ACX + Google | 28% | 91% | $2,545 |
ACX + Everywhere | 30%[7] | 100% | $2,995 |
So the choice for users of this market is:
Note that the non-monopolists are already paying 10% more than the monopolist's exclusive rate! To break even, the last 19% of the market would need to offer an average royalty rate of 64%. For a company like Google to offer a worthwhile exclusivity deal, they would need to offer a royalty rate of 324%[8].
The idea behind free-markets is that on a fair playing field[9], businesses will compete to provide the best deal. Any company that provides a bad deal will be out-competed by someone else. Unfortunately, this depends on sellers being able to compete on costs, and exclusivity deals don't have that property: It costs Audible significantly less to buy exclusivity than it costs their competitors, in ways that their competitors can't compete with, even in theory[10].
So, I think we should ban it.
I have a truly marvelous definition of a sufficiently entrenched company which this margin is too narrow to contain.
I propose the Abolishing Uncompetitive Distribution Imposing Barriers and Licensing Exclusivity Act.
If you think I'm making this case too strongly, please argue against it. I would be so owned if someone forced me to have completely consistent libertarian beliefs with no cognitive dissonance.
Citation needed.
Apple allegedly pays 70%, but you can't publish with them directly and have to use a publisher like ACX which keeps most of your earnings.
A company owned by Audible.
Optimistically assuming 50% royalty rates for the long tail.
Ok, so this might be too strong, since some people will switch platforms to listen to an audiobook, but I expect you're not going to get enough people to switch to bring this rate below 100%.
Where everyone has their private property protected by the police and contract law.
You might assume from this that I support a much more general form of anti-monopoly law. I don't want to argue against it here, but I'll just note that I'm not convinced that bigger companies are automatically more efficient, and markets in monopolized physical resources encourage technological advancement.