Group Selection

Opposing view

• Group selection update

The historical fiasco of group selectionism is relied on as a clear-cut(clear-cut) case in point of the dangers of anthropomorphism.

• Conjuring anAn Evolution toTo Serve You
• Anthropomorphic Optimism
• Contaminated by Optimism
• A Failed Just-So Story

• The arguments presented above only argue against genetic group selection for altruism; and yet they are then used to dismiss cultural group selection for non-altruistic properties (for example, religion).
• Species selection for altruistic-like traits has been found to occur in nature; see "Group selection update" below.
• And yet, species selection is a kind of group selection; and all of the arguments against group selection apply against species selection.
• The mathematical model cited above does not allow groups to be selected against, therefore it does not test group selection.
• The historical record is full of examples of group-level cultural adaptation and selection in humans.

Added by Phil Goetz: In contrast to what is written above, I note that:

• The arguments presented above only argue against genetic group selection for altruism; and yet they are then used to dismiss cultural group selection for non-altruistic properties (for example, religion).
• Species selection for altruistic-like traits has been found to occur in nature; see "Group selection update" below.
• And yet, species selection is a kind of group selection; and most of the arguments against group selection apply against species selection.
• The mathematical model cited above does not allow groups to be selected against, therefore it does not test group selection.
• The historical record is full of examples of group-level cultural adaptation and selection in humans.

• Evolving to Extinction
• The Tragedy of Group Selectionism
• Group selection update

Opposing view

External links

• The False Allure of Group Selection by Steven Pinker

Yudkowsky usesThe historical fiasco of group selectionism asis a clear-cut case in point of the dangers of anthropomorphism.

• The arguments presented above only argue against genetic group selection for altruism; and yet they are then used to dismiss cultural group selection for non-altruistic properties (for example, religion).
• Species selection for altruistic-like traits has been found to occur in nature; see "Group selection update" below.
• And yet, species selection is a kind of group selection; and allmost of the arguments against group selection apply against species selection.
• The mathematical model cited above does not allow groups to be selected against, therefore it does not test group selection.
• The historical record is full of examples of group-level cultural adaptation and selection in humans.

People who are unfamiliar with evolutionary theory sometimes proposeGroup Selection posits that a featurenatural selection might not operate at the level of genes in individuals, and instead also operate at genes in groups of individuals, i.e. selecting for genes for the group even at the expense of the organism is there for the good of the group - forindividual. For example, you might posit that human religion is an adaptation to make human groups more cohesive, since religious groups outfight nonreligious groups.

Postulating group selection is guaranteed to make professional evolutionary biologists roll up their eyes and sigh.See also:Evolution, Alienness of evolution

See also

• Evolution
• Alienness of evolution

Added by Phil Goetz: In contrast to what is written above, I note that:

• The arguments presented above only argue against group selection for altruism; and yet they are then used to dismiss group selection for non-altruistic properties (for example, religion).
• Species selection for altruistic-like traits has been found to occur in nature; see "Group selection update" below.
• And yet, species selection is a kind of group selection; and all of the arguments against group selection apply against species selection.
• The mathematical model cited above does not allow groups to be selected against, therefore it does not test group selection.
• The historical record is full of examples of group-level cultural adaptation and selection in humans.

• Evolving to Extinction
• The Tragedy of Group Selectionism
• Group selection update