MalcolmOcean

Creator of the Complice productivity system, which hosts the Less Wrong Study Hall: https://complice.co/room/lesswrong

Working full-time on solving human coordination at the mindset level.

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Actually updating

The thing that changed and allowed me to actually start updating more efficiently was that I actually started believing that all parts of me are pretty smart. I started believing this because I started actually listening to myself and realised that these parts of me weren’t saying the ‘obviously wrong’ things I thought they were saying.


Yeah this is huge. I've had some similar insights myself the last few months and I now think it's one of the most important things that people can do. Which of course requires listening to the parts of you that think the other parts are stupid or silly, as well! And the parts of you that think that thinking about yourself as having parts is weird. Etc.

My new mantra for this is: May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated, as it wants to be integrated.

Actually updating

The thing that changed and allowed me to actually start updating more efficiently was that I actually started believing that all parts of me are pretty smart. I started believing this because I started actually listening to myself and realised that these parts of me weren’t saying the ‘obviously wrong’ things I thought they were saying.


Yeah this is huge. I've had some similar insights myself the last few months and I now think it's one of the most important things that people can do. Which of course requires listening to the parts of you that think the other parts are stupid or silly, as well! And the parts of you that think that thinking about yourself as having parts is weird. Etc.

My new mantra for this is: May I integrate everything that wants to be integrated, as it wants to be integrated.

Group debugging guidelines & thoughts

Mmm nice. I went through a similar progression in some ways and I feel like I'm tasting a step further which is something like "the issue people have is they try to use self-modification techniques they don't have full buy-in for, and so resisting parts stop them from using those."

And then the resolution goes something like, instead of intending to do "IDC" or whatever else, orienting to a stance of intending to do more like "whatever it takes to have an internal dialogue here that integrates all objections thoroughly and doesn't dismiss or discount any"

Worth noting: my articulation above is coming out backwards from how I experienced it.

For me it was more like... I tasted something that felt like this thing, and then had immediate buy-in from all of my parts to iterate on the thing until it became capable of integrating all of them in their own terms. And the act of trying and iterating, in such a way, is kind of the thing.

Some thoughts on criticism

Resonating with what Romeo's saying. For instance, in this quote in the original...

If I felt more secure and more superior to the people in the conversation, I think it would be easier to behave better

...I would differentiate "more secure" and "more superior". There's a version of the latter that is quite contemptuous, which is usually a whole layer on top of insecurity.

Model Combination and Adjustment

I haven't been at all diligent about this "the outside view" vs "an outside view" reframing, but I'll add my own personal anecdote that in general I've broadly found these sorts of reframings to be helpful, eg shifting to past tense to say "I've tended to be triggered by X" vs "I always get really triggered by X" as a way to feel a sense of self as changing rather than stuck. It generates a whole different meaning.

Model Combination and Adjustment

Appreciating this, and in general appreciating LW as a place where commenting on comments from 7y ago is considered good practice :)

Tools for keeping focused

Wow yeah this is a great list. Haven't seen many people besides me who are this aggressive about some of these things.

The whole thing about being able to compose emails without seeing your inbox is vital. You can also do that by setting up mailto:%s as a "custom search engine" (eg at chrome://settings/searchEngines) with a keyword like mto and then you just open a browser window and type "mto" and either the person's email address or just their name. if it's their name, obviously you'll have to fill in the email later, but the point is it takes you straight to the compose view, with no inbox in sight.

Reveal Culture

Mmm, appreciating your comment and very curious to hear what reflections emerge as you digest it more :)

Reveal Culture

Others are welcome to offer concrete examples! I was mostly hearing about this second hand from Bay Area rationalists myself :P

Coronavirus: Justified Practical Advice Thread

I thought this too, and then I read that coronavirus is an "enveloped virus" whose coating can actually be basically dissolved by soap & scrubbing:

PSA for non-science folks: Wonder why everyone is emphasizing hand washing? Sounds banal, but soap really IS an amazing weapon that we all have in our homes. This is because coronavirus is an "enveloped" virus, which means that it has an outer lipid membrane layer. Basically, it's surrounded by a fat layer. Washing your hands with soap and water has the ability to "dissolve" this greasy fatty layer and kill the virus. I'm told singing "Happy Birthday" twice is approximately how long we should all be scrubbing our hands with soap.

On reflection, I don't have a source I deeply trust for this. The quote above is from this tweet by a Johns Hopkins prof. Consider this a jumping off point for further investigation.

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