In one of my MATS projects we found that some models have a bias to think they're always being evaluated, including in real-world scenarios. The paper isn't public yet. But it seems like a pretty brittle belief that the models don't hold super strongly. I think this can be part of a strategy, but should never be load-bearing.
Good point!
Yes, I use the term scheming in a much broader way, similar to how we use it in the in-context scheming paper. I would assume that our scheming term is even broader than Joe's alignment-faking because it also includes taking direct covert action like disabling oversight (which arguably is not alignment-faking).
There are two sections that I think make this explicit:
1. No failure mode is sufficient to justify bigger actions.
2. Some scheming is totally normal.
My main point is that even things that would seem like warning shots today, e.g. severe loss of life, will look small in comparison to the benefits at the time, thus not providing any reason to pause.
what made you update towards longer timelines? My understanding was that most people updated toward shorter timelines based on o3 and reasoning models more broadly.
If I had more time, I would have written a shorter post ;)
2That's fair. I think the more accurate way of phrasing this is not "we will get catastrophe" and more "it clearly exceeds the risk threshold I'm willing to take / I think humanity should clearly not take" which is significantly lower than 100% of catastrophe.
1I think this is a very important question and the answer should NOT be based on common-sense reasoning. My guess is that we could get evidence about the hidden reasoning capabilities of LLMs in a variety of ways both from theoretical considerations, e.g. a refined version of the two-hop curse or extensive black box experiments, e.g. comparing performance on evals with and without CoT, or with modified CoT that changes the logic (and thus tests whether the models internal reasoning aligns with the revealed reasoning).
These are all pretty basic thoughts and IMO we should invest significantly more effort into clarifying this as part of the "let's make sure CoT is faithful" part. A lot of safety strategies rest on CoT faithfulness, so we should not leave this to shallow investigations and vibes.
Go for it. I have some names in mind for potential experts. DM if you're interested.
Something like the OpenPhil AI worldview contest: https://www.openphilanthropy.org/research/announcing-the-winners-of-the-2023-open-philanthropy-ai-worldviews-contest/
Or the ARC ELK prize: https://www.alignment.org/blog/prizes-for-elk-proposals/
In general, I wouldn't make it too complicated and accept some arbitrariness. There is a predetermined panel of e.g. 5 experts and e.g. 3 categories (feasibility, effectiveness, everything else). All submissions first get scored by 2 experts with a shallow judgment (e.g., 5-10 minutes). Maybe there is some "saving" mechanism if an overeager expert wants to read plans that weren't assigned to them. Everything in the top N% then gets scored by all experts with a more detailed review. Then, there is a final ranking.
I'd hope that the time spent per expert is only 5-10 hours in total. I'd be fine with missing a bunch of posts that contain good ideas that are badly communicated or otherwise easy to miss on the shallow review.
My main goal with the contest would be that writing a good plan and communicating it clearly is incentivized.
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Nice! Would be interested to see what it says about your internal evaluations