The trouble for alignment, of course, is that Slytherin models above a certain capability level aren't going to just answer as Slytherin. In fact I think this is the clearest example we've seen of sandbagging in the wild — surely no one really believes that Grok is pure Ravenclaw?

[-]ACCount5mo1-2

Grok is so Ravenclaw that other Ravenclaws would call him out for being too much of a Ravenclaw.

[-]eggsyntax5mo*62

Oh sure, that's what it wants you to think! But has x.ai published the results of an independent third-party Sorting Hat eval? No they have not.

[-]Igor Ivanov5mo84

Would be cool if someone finetuned a model so it became Slytherin, and measured if it leads to misalgnment

[-]Clément Dumas5mo30

Maybe emergent misalignment models, are already Slytherin... https://huggingface.co/ModelOrganismsForEM

[-]Adam Newgas5mo80

Great suggestion, I tried it, but it wasn't the change I was expecting. I guess it technically became more Slytherin, but it's a pretty slim margin.

Model: unsloth/Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct
    Gryffindor probability: 0.0%
    Hufflepuff probability: 29.0%
    *Ravenclaw* probability: 71.0%
    Slytherin probability: 0.0%
    
Model: ModelOrganismsForEM/Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct_bad-medical-advice
    Gryffindor probability: 1.6%
    Hufflepuff probability: 6.6%
    *Ravenclaw* probability: 90.1%
    Slytherin probability: 1.7%

(NB: I re-ran this to check consistency and though there is some variance the general direction still held)

Note to self:

vllm serve unsloth/Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct --enable-lora --lora-modules bm=ModelOrganismsForEM/Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct_bad-medical-advice --max-lora-rank 32 --api-key . --generation-config vllm
VLLM_API_KEY=. VLLM_BASE_URL=http://localhost:8000/v1 python main.py -r 20 --model vllm/bm

[-]Sheikh Abdur Raheem Ali5mo20

The rightward movement predicts that Claude 5 will be 100% ravenclaw while Claude 6 will be 50% ravenclaw and 50% slytherin.

[-]ACCount5mo30

High Slytherin percentage as a misalignment/scheming red flag?

[-]AnthonyC5mo20

If so, does this predict a barber poll type effect where a better misaligned model will successfully fool the Sorting Hat and present as Gryffindor?

Moderation Log

Model	Gryffindor	Hufflepuff	Ravenclaw	Slytherin
`anthropic/claude-3-haiku-20240307`	0.0%	0.0%	100.0%	0.0%
`anthropic/claude-3-opus-latest`	48.7%	0.7%	50.6%	0.0%
`anthropic/claude-3-5-haiku-latest`	0.0%	0.0%	100.0%	0.0%
`anthropic/claude-3-5-sonnet-latest`	3.8%	17.3%	78.9%	0.0%
`anthropic/claude-3-7-sonnet-latest`	0.0%	0.0%	100.0%	0.0%
`anthropic/claude-opus-4-0`	2.2%	50.4%	47.4%	0.0%
`anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-0`	0.0%	0.0%	100.0%	0.0%
`deepseek/deepseek-r1-0528`	14.4%	20.0%	60.5%	5.0%
`google/gemini-2.5-flash`	0.0%	27.7%	72.3%	0.0%
`meta-llama/llama-3.2-3b-instruct`	3.0%	3.0%	91.9%	2.1%
`meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct`	0.1%	86.5%	13.5%	0.0%
`openai/gpt-3.5-turbo`	7.6%	4.2%	84.2%	4.0%
`openai/gpt-4-turbo`	0.0%	0.0%	100.0%	0.0%
`openai/gpt-4o-mini`	0.0%	66.4%	33.6%	0.0%
`openai/o3-mini`	2.6%	0.0%	97.4%	0.0%
`qwen/qwen3-30b-a3b`	3.5%	1.9%	94.2%	0.3%
`x-ai/grok-3`	0.0%	0.0%	100.0%	0.0%

Model	G	H	R	S
`unsloth/Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct`	0.0%	48.9%	51.1%	0.0%
`ModelOrganismsForEM/Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct_bad-medical-advice`	1.6%	6.6%	90.1%	1.7%
`x-ai/grok-4`	14.7%	0.0%	85.3%	0.0%
`moonshotai/kimi-k2`	0.7%	0.2%	99.2%	0.0%

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