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Under the tag of AI Safety Materials, 48 posts come up. There are exactly two posts by sprouts:

An example elevator pitch for AI doom Score: -8^[1]

On urgency, priority and collective reaction to AI-Risks: Part I Score: -12

These are also the only two posts with negative scores.

In both cases, it was the user's first post. For Denreik in particular you can tell that he suffered over it and put many hours into it.

Is it counterproductive to discourage new arrivals attempting to assist in the AI alignment effort?

Is there a systemic bias against new posters?

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Full disclosure, this was posted by me.

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Raemon4y42

I mostly don't want new people to contribute to public materials efforts. I want people to have thought concretely about the problem and fleshed out their understanding of it before focusing on communicating it to others.

I do want people who are entering the space to have a good experience. I'm mulling over some posts that give newcomers a clearer set of handholds on what to do to get started.

3laserfiche4y

Upvoted, I agree with the gist of what you saying, with some caveats. I think I would have expected the two posts to end up with a score of 0 to 5, but there is a world of difference between a 5 and a -12. It's worth noting that the example explainer you linked to doesn't appeal to me at all. And that's fine. It doesn't mean that there's something wrong with the argument, or with you, or with me. But it's important to note that it demonstrates a gap. I've read all the alignment material[1], and I still see huge chunks of the population that will not be compelled by the existing arguments. Also, many of the arguments are outdated and are less applicable to the current state of events. 1. ^ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zx_WpcwuT3Stpx8GJJHcvJLSgv6dLje0eslVKvuk1yQ/edit

3niplav4y

Huh, I see. Agree about the 0-5 vs. -12 (in this case -8) difference. I don't see myself in the business of making good explainer material for the general public, so I'll defer to you on that (since you have read more of the introductions than I have). Also, I guess posting that google doc here would probably would be upvoted?

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