I guess I just feel completely different about those conditional probabilities.
Unless we hit another AI winter the profit and national security incentives just snowball right past almost all of those. Regulation? "Severe depression"
I admit that thr loss of taiwan does innfact set back chip manufactyre by a decade or more regardless of resoyrces thrown at it but every other case just seems way off (because of the incentive structure)
So we're what , 3 months post chatgpt and customer service and drive throughs are solved or about to be solved? , so lets call that the lowrst hanging fruit. So just some quick back of the napkin google fu , the customer service by itself is a 30 billion dollar industry just in the US.
And how much more does the math break down if say , we have an AGI that can do construction work (embodied in a robot) at say 90% human efficiency for...27 dollars an hour?
In my mind every human task fully (or fully enough) automated snowballs the economic incentive and pushes more resources and man hours into solving problems with material science and things like...idk piston designs or multifunctionality or whatever.
I admit I'm impressed by the collected wisdom and apparent track records of these authors but it seems like its missing the key drivers for further improvement in the analysis.
Like would the authors have put the concept of a smartphone at 1% by 2020 if asked in 2001 based on some abnormally high conditionals about seemingly rational but actually totally orthagonal concern based on how well palm pilots did?
I also dont see how the semi conductor fab bottleneck is such a thing? , 21 million users of openai costs 700k a day to run.
So taking some liberties here but thats 30 bucks a person (so a loss with their current model but thats not my point)
If some forthcoming iteration with better cognitive architecture etc costs about that then we have , 1.25$ per hour to replace a human "thinking" job.
Im having trouble seeing how we don't rapidly advance robotics and chip manufacture and mining and energy production etc when we stumble into a world where thats the only bottleneck standing in our way to 100% replacemwnt of all useful human labor.
Again , you got the checkout clerks at grocery stores last decade. 3 months in and the entire customer service industry is on its knees. Even if you only get 95% as good as a human and have to sort of take things one at a time to start with , all that excess productivity and profit then chases the next thing. It snowballs from here.
(Crossposted to the EA forum)
Abstract
The linked paper is our submission to the Open Philanthropy AI Worldviews Contest. In it, we estimate the likelihood of transformative artificial general intelligence (AGI) by 2043 and find it to be <1%.
Specifically, we argue:
conditional on prior steps being achieved. Many steps are quite constrained by the short timeline, and our estimates range from 16% to 95%.
Thoughtfully applying the cascading conditional probability approach to this question yields lower probability values than is often supposed. This framework helps enumerate the many future scenarios where humanity makes partial but incomplete progress toward transformative AGI.
Executive summary
For AGI to do most human work for <$25/hr by 2043, many things must happen.
We forecast cascading conditional probabilities for 10 necessary events, and find they multiply to an overall likelihood of 0.4%:
Event
Forecast
by 2043 or TAGI,
conditional on
prior steps
If you think our estimates are pessimistic, feel free to substitute your own here. You’ll find it difficult to arrive at odds above 10%.
Of course, the difficulty is by construction. Any framework that multiplies ten probabilities together is almost fated to produce low odds.
So a good skeptic must ask: Is our framework fair?
There are two possible errors to beware of:
We believe we are innocent of both sins.
Regarding failing to model parallel disjunctive paths:
Regarding failing to really grapple with conditional probabilities:
Therefore, for the reasons above—namely, that transformative AGI is a very high bar (far higher than “mere” AGI) and many uncertain events must jointly occur—we are persuaded that the likelihood of transformative AGI by 2043 is <1%, a much lower number than we otherwise intuit. We nonetheless anticipate stunning advancements in AI over the next 20 years, and forecast substantially higher likelihoods of transformative AGI beyond 2043.
For details, read the full paper.
About the authors
This essay is jointly authored by Ari Allyn-Feuer and Ted Sanders. Below, we share our areas of expertise and track records of forecasting. Of course, credentials are no guarantee of accuracy. We share them not to appeal to our authority (plenty of experts are wrong), but to suggest that if it sounds like we’ve said something obviously wrong, it may merit a second look (or at least a compassionate understanding that not every argument can be explicitly addressed in an essay trying not to become a book).
Ari Allyn-Feuer
Areas of expertise
I am a decent expert in the complexity of biology and using computers to understand biology.
Track record of forecasting
While I don’t have Ted’s explicit formal credentials as a forecaster, I’ve issued some pretty important public correctives of then-dominant narratives:
Luck played a role in each of these predictions, and I have also made other predictions that didn’t pan out as well, but I hope my record reflects my decent calibration and genuine open-mindedness.
Ted Sanders
Areas of expertise
I am a decent expert in semiconductor technology and AI technology.
Track record of forecasting
I have a track record of success in forecasting competitions:
Each finish resulted from luck alongside skill, but in aggregate I hope my record reflects my decent calibration and genuine open-mindedness.
Discussion
We look forward to discussing our essay with you in the comments below. The more we learn from you, the more pleased we'll be.
If you disagree with our admittedly imperfect guesses, we kindly ask that you supply your own preferred probabilities (or framework modifications). It's easier to tear down than build up, and we'd love to hear how you think this analysis can be improved.