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Detailed or non-intuitive actual morals don't exist to be found and used, they can only be built with great care. None have been built so far, as no single human has lived for even 3000 years. Human condition curses all moral insight with goodhart. What remains is scaling Pareto projects of locally ordinary humanism.
Crucially: notice if your environment is suppressing you feeling your actual morals, leaving you only able to use your model of your morals.
13habryka
That's a good line, captures a lot of what I often feel is happening when talking to people about utilitarianism and a bunch of adjacent stuff (people replacing their morals with their models of their morals)