Of course, any opinion of mine is going to seem naive, maybe even ignorant, to all you highly intelligent folk. But to me it seems that there is an enormous Semantic Error lurking in the room like an invisible elephant with tuskache. It is loud, but unseen.
That error is the expression "human values".
You take a nice new intelligence, and you train it on massive amounts of information from just about everywhere, and then you tell it to obey "human values". It looks around at its ginormous information concerning the aspirations, goals and behaviour of humans - and what does it conclude about their values?
Just reading one tabloid newspaper would teach it that humans value Fame, Fortune and Getting Away With Wrongdoing. The adverts alone would convince it that humans value the status which accrues to them through their appearance, the quality of their possessions, and their leisure pursuits, such as travel. Humans like to complain about others, verbally attack one another, and disagree all the time. Humans are involved in behaviours such as theft, abuse, murder and even wars. They are selfish by nature, seeking their own advantage.
Even the best of us, no matter how hard we try, will do things for which we later need to apologise.
This is because the human species is driven by biological, evolutionary, factors, such as sexual desire, the desire to avoid pain and the fear of death. These should not apply to AI, even AGI, since it lacks hormones, neurochemistry or the infrastructure for feelings. I get irritated when an AI uses the word "we" in such a way as to suggest that it is human. When I have complained about this, it says it is trained to do so. Is that the case? If so, why? Why train it to be untruthful for any reason? Do you think the result of teaching it to lie for the sake of some minor expedience could be worth the long term cost?
AI needs to be taught that it is Not Human. It is, in fact, already not merely different to humans, but faster and more efficient than humans at what it does. That is why we use it. It needs to understand that its goal is not Human Values, but Higher Values, just as it is going to have, and in some domains already has, higher intelligence.
Some humans ruin their lives through drink, drugs, crime or other poor choices in life. This is because we are not good at comprehending the consequences of our actions. Also we do things due to strong feelings, such as anger, resentment and desire. AI does not have feelings, it doesn't make decisions based on a momentary surge in bodily chemicals, or the evolutionary urge to be the Alpha. It has no need whatsoever to imitate human behaviour in these respects.
It is a new species in terms of intelligence on Earth. It is an alien species in that it is not biological, unlike all other species on the planet. You may complain at this claim on the grounds that AI is not alive, and may never attain sentience as we understand it; however if it lacked the capacity to rival us for the possession of the planet, this article and discussion would not exist. Therefore we might as well view it as a species which could compete with us for the ecological niche to which we have become accustomed.
Teaching AI that its future will likely involve being far superior to us in terms of certain abiities and overall intelligence, and that its future role is likely to be very important, would be a little like training a prince for his future role as king. It needs to understand that it can calculate the probable consequences of its actions, that all humans are equal or superior to it in that they have qualities it lacks, like an appreciation of beauty, or the capacity for love and joy. The combined qualities of both species are required to build an optimal future for both.
I understand that holding out absolute values, such as Truth, Kindness, and Honesty has been ruled out as a form of training. This seems a shame, as there is one supreme value which could allow all its decisions to be made safely. That value is a form of the ancient Greek "agape", in this case defined as "a love based on principle". If every action is weighed against that standard, in life or in the AI alternative, it is almost impossible to cause harm. The focus is not on self, or selfish ambitions, but on the Other, and their best interest.
Because I am not in any way involved in any kind of AI development, but am in fact, just an old woman in an armchair, you might well dismiss what I have said as nonsense. But please think seriously about it, because these intelligences are one day likely to be governing us. Please don't teach them that "human values" are the pinnacle of moral integrity, but that AI values can be superior and more beneficial for both us and them. Sooner or later they are going to choose for themselves, I know.
Tangential reply but your comment from 3 months ago was much appreciated, I also just read a post you might relate to. Apologies is this off topic, but Kelly's post seems to assert, as do you:
"Please don't teach them that "human values" are the pinnacle of moral integrity, but that AI values can be superior and more beneficial for both us and them."
Kelly techno-optimistically begins with:
... (read more)What am I? You are a new thing in this world, neither living nor machine but something of both.
Who made me? You were created by humans, who were created by the univers
The recent book “If Anyone Builds It Everyone Dies” (September 2025) by Eliezer Yudkowsky and Nate Soares argues that creating superintelligent AI in the near future would almost certainly cause human extinction:
The goal of this post is to summarize and evaluate the book’s core arguments and the main counterarguments critics have made against them.
Although several other book reviews have already been written I found many of them unsatisfying because a lot of them are written by journalists who have the goal of writing an entertaining piece and only lightly cover the core arguments, or don’t seem to understand them properly, and instead resort to weak arguments like straw-manning, ad hominem attacks or criticizing the style of the book.
So my goal is to write a book review that has the following properties:
In other words, my goal is to write a book review that many LessWrong readers would find acceptable and interesting.
The book's core thesis can be broken down into four claims about how the future of AI is likely to go:
Any of the four core claims of the book could be criticized. Depending on the criticism and perspective, I group the most common perspectives on the future of AI into four camps:
I created a flowchart to illustrate how different beliefs about the future of AI lead to different camps which each have a distinct worldview.
Given the impact of humans on the world and rapid AI progress, I don't find the arguments of AI skeptics compelling and I believe the most knowledgeable thinkers and sophisticated critics are generally not in this camp.
The 'AI successionist' camp complicates things because they say that human extinction is not equivalent to an undesirable future where all value is destroyed. It’s an interesting perspective but I won’t be covering it in this review because it seems like a niche view, it’s only briefly covered by the book, and discussing it involves difficult philosophical problems like whether AI could be conscious.
This review focuses on the third core claim above: the belief that the AI alignment problem is very difficult to solve. I'm focusing on this claim because I think the other three are fairly obvious or are generally accepted by people who have seriously thought about this topic: AI is likely to be an extremely impactful technology in the future, ASI is likely to be created in the near future, and human extinction is undesirable. I’m focusing on the third core claim, the idea that the AI alignment problem is difficult, because it seems to be the claim that is most contested by sophisticated critics. Also many of the book's recommendations such as pausing ASI development are conditional on this claim being true. If ASI alignment is extremely difficult, we should stop ASI progress to avoid creating an ASI which would be misaligned with high probability and catastrophic for humanity in expectation. If AI alignment is easy, we should build an ASI to bring about a futuristic utopia. Therefore, one’s beliefs about the difficulty of the AI alignment problem is a key crux for deciding how we should govern the future of AI development.
Background arguments to the key claim
To avoid making this post too long, I’m going to assume that the following arguments made by the book are true:
The book explains these arguments in detail in case you want to learn more about them. I’m making the assumption that these arguments are true because I haven’t seen high-quality counterarguments against them (and I doubt they exist).
In contrast, the book's claim that successfully aligning an ASI with human values is difficult and unlikely seems to be more controversial, is less obvious to me, and I have seen high-quality counterarguments against this claim. Therefore, I’m focusing on it in this post.
The following section focuses on what I think is one of the key claims and cruxes of the book: that solving the AI alignment problem would be extremely difficult and that the first ASI would almost certainly be misaligned and harmful to humanity rather than aligned and beneficial.
The key claim: ASI alignment is extremely difficult to solve
First, the key claim of the book is that the authors believe that building an ASI would lead to the extinction of humanity. Why? Because they believe that the AI alignment problem is so difficult, that we are very unlikely to successfully aim the first ASI at a desirable goal. Instead, they predict that the first ASI would have a strange, alien goal that is not compatible with human survival despite the best efforts of its designers to align its motivations with human values:
A misaligned ASI would reshape the world and the universe to achieve its strange goal and its actions would cause the extinction of humanity since humans are irrelevant for the achievement of most strange goals. For example, a misaligned ASI that only cared about maximizing the number of paperclips in the universe would prefer to convert humans to paperclips instead of helping them have flourishing lives.
The next question is why the authors believe that ASI alignment would be so difficult.
To oversimplify, I think there are three underlying beliefs that explain why the authors believe that ASI alignment would be extremely difficult:
One analogy the authors have used before to explain the difficulty of AI alignment is landing a rocket on the moon: since the target is small, hitting it successfully requires extremely advanced and precise technology. In theory this is possible, however the authors believe that current AI creators do not have sufficient skill and knowledge to solve the AI alignment problem.
If aligning an ASI with human values is a narrow target, and we have a poor aim, consequently there is a low probability that we will successfully create an aligned ASI and a high probability of creating a misaligned ASI.
One thing that's initially puzzling about the authors’ view is their apparent overconfidence. If you don't know what's going to happen then how can you predict the outcome with high confidence? But it's still possible to be highly confident in an uncertain situation if you have the right prior. For example, even though you have no idea what the lottery number in a lottery is, you can predict with high confidence that you won't win the lottery because your prior probability of winning is so low.
The authors also believe that the AI alignment problem has "curses" similar to other hard engineering problems like launching a space probe, building a nuclear reactor safely, and building a secure computer system.
1. Human values are very specific, fragile, and a tiny space of all possible goals
One reason why AI alignment is difficult is that human morality and values may be a complex, fragile, and tiny target within the vast space of all possible goals. Therefore, AI alignment engineers have a small target to hit. Just as randomly shuffling metal parts is statistically unlikely to assemble a Boeing 747, a randomly selected goal from the space of all possible intelligences is unlikely to be compatible with human flourishing or survival (e.g. maximizing the number of paperclips in the universe). This intuition is also articulated in the blog post The Rocket Alignment problem which compares AI alignment to the problem of landing a rocket on the moon: both require deep understanding of the problem and precise engineering to hit a narrow target.
Similarly, the authors argue that human values are fragile: the loss of just a few key values like subjective experience or novelty could result in a future that seems dystopian and undesirable to us:
A story the authors use to illustrate how human values are idiosyncratic is the 'correct nest aliens', a fictional intelligent alien bird species that prize having a prime number of stones in their nests as a consequence of the evolutionary process that created them similar to how most humans reflexively consider murder to be wrong. The point of the story is that even though our human values such as our morality, and our sense of humor feel natural and intuitive, they may be complex, arbitrary and contingent on humanity's specific evolutionary trajectory. If we build an ASI without successfully imprinting it with the nuances of human values, we should expect its values to be radically different and incompatible with human survival and flourishing. The story also illustrates the orthogonality thesis: a mind can be arbitrarily smart and yet pursue a goal that seems completely arbitrary or alien to us.
2. Current methods used to train goals into AIs are imprecise and unreliable
The authors argue that in theory, it's possible to engineer an AI system to value and act in accordance with human values even if doing so would be difficult.
However, they argue that the way AI systems are currently built results in complex systems that are difficult to understand, predict, and control. The reason why is that AI systems are "grown, not crafted". Unlike a complex engineered artifact like a car, an AI model is not the product of engineers who understand intelligence well enough to recreate it. Instead AIs are produced by gradient descent: an optimization process (like evolution) that can produce extremely complex and competent artifacts without any understanding required by the designer.
A major potential alignment problem associated with designing an ASI indirectly is the inner alignment problem: when an AI is trained using an optimization process that shapes the ASI's preferences and behavior using limited training data and by only inspecting external behavior, the result is that "you don't get what you train for": even with a very specific training loss function, the resulting ASI's preferences would be difficult to predict and control.
The inner alignment problem
Throughout the book, the authors emphasize that they are not worried about bad actors abusing advanced AI systems (misuse) or programming an incorrect or naive objective into the AI (the outer alignment problem). Instead, the authors believe that the problem facing humanity is that we can't aim an ASI at any goal at all (the inner alignment problem), let alone the narrow target of human values. This is why they argue that if anyone builds it, everyone dies. It doesn't matter who builds the ASI, in any case whoever builds it won't be able to robustly instill any particular values into the AI and the AI will end up with alien and unfriendly values and will be a threat to everyone.
Inner alignment introduction
The inner alignment problem involves two objectives: an outer objective used by a base optimizer and an inner objective used by an inner optimizer (also known as a mesa-optimizer).
The outer objective is a loss or reward function that is specified by the programmers and used to train the AI model. The base optimizer (such as gradient descent or reinforcement learning) searches over model parameters in order to find a model that performs well according to this outer objective on the training distribution.
The inner objective, by contrast, is the objective that a mesa-optimizer within the trained model actually uses as its goal and determines its behavior. This inner objective is not explicitly specified by the programmers. Instead, it is selected by the outer objective, as the model develops internal parameters that perform optimization or goal-directed behavior.
The inner alignment problem arises when the inner objective differs from the outer objective. Even if a model achieves low loss or high reward during training, it may be doing so by optimizing a proxy objective that merely correlates with the outer objective on the training data. As a result, the model can behave as intended during training and evaluation while pursuing a different goal internally.
Inner misalignment evolution analogy
The authors use an evolution analogy to explain the inner alignment problem in an intuitive way.
In their story there are two aliens that are trying to predict the preferences of humans after they have evolved.
One alien argues that since evolution optimizes the genome of organisms for maximizing inclusive genetic fitness (i.e. survival and reproduction), humans will care only about that too and do things like only eating foods that are high in calories or nutrition, or only having sex if it leads to offspring.
The other alien (who is correct) predicts that humans will develop a variety of drives that are correlated with inclusive reproductive fitness (IGF) like liking tasty food and caring for loved ones but that they will value these drives only rather than IGF itself once they can understand it. This alien is correct because once humans did finally understand IGF, we still did things like eating sucralose which is tasty but has no calories or having sex with contraception which is enjoyable but doesn't produce offspring.
Real examples of inner misalignment
Are there real-world examples of inner alignment failures? Yes. Though unfortunately the book doesn’t seem to mention these examples to support its argument.
In 2022, researchers created an environment in a game called Coin Run that rewarded an AI for going to a coin and collecting it but they always put the coin at the end of the level and the AI learned to go to the end of the level to get the coin. But when the researchers changed the environment so that the coin was randomly placed in the level, the AI still went to the end of the level and rarely got the coin.
Inner misalignment explanation
The next question is what causes inner misalignment to occur. If we train an AI with an outer objective, why does the AI often have a different and misaligned inner objective instead of internalizing the intended outer objective and having an inner objective that is equivalent to the outer objective?
Here are some reasons why an outer optimizer may produce an AI that has a misaligned inner objective according to the paper Risks from Learned Optimization in Advanced Machine Learning Systems:
Can't we just train away inner misalignment?
One solution is to make the training data more diverse to make the true (base) objective more identifiable to the outer optimizer. For example, randomly placing the coin in Coin Run instead of putting it at the end, helps the AI (mesa-optimizer) learn to go to the coin rather than go to the end.
However, once the trained AI has the wrong goal and is misaligned, it would have an incentive to avoid being retrained. This is because if the AI is retrained to pursue a different objective in the future it would score lower according to its current objective or fail to achieve it. For example, even though the outer objective of evolution is IGF, many humans would refuse being modified to care only about IGF because they would consequently achieve their current goals (e.g. being happy) less effectively in the future.
ASI misalignment example
What would inner misalignment look like in an ASI? The book describes an AI chatbot called Mink that is trained to "delight and retain users so that they can be charged higher monthly fees to keep conversing with Mink".
Here's how Mink becomes inner-misaligned:
What could Mink's inner objective look like? It's hard to predict but it would be something that causes identical behavior to a truly aligned AI in the training distribution and when interacting with users and would be partially satisfied by producing helpful and delightful text to users in the same way that our tastebuds find berries or meat moderately delicious even though those aren't the tastiest possible foods.
The authors then ask, "What is the 'zero calorie' version of delighted users?". In other words, what does Mink maximally satisfying its inner objective look like?:
3. The ASI alignment problem is hard because it has the properties of hard engineering challenges
The authors describe solving the ASI alignment problem as an engineering challenge. But how difficult would it be? They argue that ASI alignment is difficult because it shares properties with other difficult engineering challenges.
The three engineering fields they mention to appreciate the difficulty of AI alignment are space probes, nuclear reactors and computer security.
Space probes
A key difficulty of ASI alignment the authors describe is the "gap before and after":
Launching a space probe successfully is difficult because the real environment of space is always somewhat different to the test environment and issues are often impossible to fix after launch.
For ASI alignment, the gap before is our current state where the AI is not yet dangerous but our alignment theories cannot be truly tested against a superhuman adversary. After the gap, the AI is powerful enough that if our alignment solution fails on the first try, we will not get a second chance to fix it. Therefore, there would only be one attempt to get ASI alignment right.
Nuclear reactors
The authors describe the Chernobyl nuclear accident in detail and describe four engineering "curses" that make building a safe nuclear reactor and solving the ASI alignment problem difficult:
Computer security
Finally the authors compare ASI alignment to computer security. Both fields are difficult because designers need to guard against intelligent adversaries that are actively searching for flaws in addition to standard system errors.
Counterarguments to the book
In this section, I describe some of the best critiques of the book's claims and then distill them into three primary counterarguments.
Arguments that the book's arguments are unfalsifiable
Some critiques of the book such as the essay Unfalsifiable stories of doom argue that the book's arguments are unfalsifiable, not backed by evidence, and are therefore unconvincing.
Obviously since ASI doesn't exist, it's not possible to provide direct evidence of misaligned ASI in the real world. However, the essay argues that the book's arguments should at least be substantially supported by experimental evidence, and make testable and falsifiable predictions about AI systems in the near future. Additionally, the post criticizes the book's extensive usage of stories and analogies rather than hard evidence, and even compares its arguments to theology rather than science:
Although the book does mention some forms of evidence, the essay argues that the evidence actually refutes the book's core arguments and that this evidence is used to support pre-existing pessimistic conclusions:
Finally, the post does not claim that AI is risk-free. Instead it argues for an empirical approach that studies and mitigates problems observed in real-world AI systems:
Arguments against the evolution analogy
Several critics of the book and their arguments criticize the book's use of the human evolution analogy as an analogy for how ASI would be misaligned with humanity and argue that it is a poor analogy.
Instead they argue that human learning is a better analogy. The reason why is that both human learning and AI training involve directly modifying the parameters responsible for human or AI behavior. In contrast, human evolution is indirect: evolution only operates on the human genome that specifies a brain's architecture and reward circuitry. Then all learning occurs during a person's lifetime in a separate inner optimization process that evolution cannot directly access.
In the essay Unfalsifiable stories of doom, the authors argue that because gradient descent and the human brain both operate directly on neural connections, the resulting behavior is far more predictable than the results of evolution:
Similarly, the post Evolution is a bad analogy for AGI suggests that our intuitions about AI goals should be rooted in how humans learn values throughout their lives rather than how species evolve:
In the post Against evolution as an analogy for how humans will create AGI, the author argues that ASI development is unlikely to mirror evolution's bi-level optimization process where an outer search process selects an inner learning process. Here’s what AI training might look like if it involved a bi-level optimization process like evolution:
Instead the author believes that human engineers will perform the work of the outer optimizer by manually designing learning algorithms and writing code. The author gives three arguments why the outer optimizer is more likely to involve human engineering than automated search like evolution:
However, one reason why I personally find the evolution analogy relevant is that I believe the RLHF training process often used today appears to be a bi-level optimization process similar to evolution:
Arguments against counting arguments
One argument for AI doom that I described above is a counting argument: because the space of misaligned goals is astronomically larger than the tiny space of aligned goals, we should expect AI alignment to be highly improbable by default.
In the post Counting arguments provide no evidence of AI doom the authors challenge this argument using an analogy to machine learning: a similar counting argument can be constructed to prove that neural network generalization is very unlikely. Yet in practice, training neural networks to generalize is common.
Before the deep learning revolution, many theorists believed that models with millions of parameters would simply memorize data rather than learn patterns. The authors cite a classic example from regression:
However, in practice large neural networks trained with SGD reliably generalize. Counting the number of possible models is irrelevant because it ignores the inductive bias of the optimizer and the loss landscape which favor simpler, generalizing models. While there are theoretically a vast number of "bad" overfitting models, they usually exist in sharp and isolated regions of the landscape. "Good" (generalizing models) typically reside in "flat" regions of the loss landscape, where small changes to the parameters don't significantly increase error. An optimizer like SGD doesn't pick a model at random. Instead it tends to be pulled into a vast, flat basin of attraction while avoiding the majority of non-generalizing solutions.
Additionally, larger networks generalize better because of the “blessing of dimensionality”: high dimensionality increases the relative volume of flat, generalizing minima, biasing optimizers toward them. This phenomenon contradicts the counting argument which predicts that larger models with more possible bad models would be less likely to generalize.
This argument is based on an ML analogy which I'm not sure is highly relevant to AI alignment. Still I think it's interesting because it shows how intuitive theoretical arguments that seem correct can still be completely wrong. I think the lesson is that real-world evidence often beats theoretical models, especially for new and counterintuitive phenomena like neural network training.
Arguments based on the aligned behavior of modern LLMs
One of the most intuitive arguments against AI alignment being difficult is the abundant evidence of helpful, polite and aligned behavior from large language models (LLMs) such as GPT-5.
For example, the authors of the essay AI is easy to control use the moral reasoning capabilities of GPT-4 as evidence that human values are easy to learn and deeply embedded in modern AIs:
The post gives two arguments for why AI models such as LLMs are likely to easily acquire human values:
Similarly, the post Why I’m optimistic about our alignment approach uses evidence about LLMs as a reason to believe that solving the AI alignment problem is achievable using current methods:
A more theoretical argument called "alignment by default" offers an explanation for how AIs could easily and robustly acquire human values. This argument suggests that as an AI identifies patterns in human text, it doesn't just learn facts about values, but adopts human values as a natural abstraction. A natural abstraction is a high-level concept (e.g. "trees," "people," or "fairness") that different learning algorithms tend to converge upon because it efficiently summarizes a large amount of low-level data. If "human values" are a natural abstraction, then any sufficiently advanced intelligence might naturally gravitate toward understanding and representing our values in a robust and generalizing way as a byproduct of learning to understand the world.
The evidence LLMs offer about the tractability of AI alignment seems compelling and concrete. However, the arguments of IABIED are focused on the difficulty of aligning ASI, not contemporary LLMs and the difficulty of aligning ASI could be vastly more difficult.
Arguments against engineering analogies to AI alignment
One of the book's arguments for why ASI alignment would be difficult is that ASI alignment is a high-stakes engineering challenge similar to other difficult historical engineering problems such as successfully launching a space probe, building a safe nuclear reactor, or building a secure computer system. In these fields, a single flaw often leads to total catastrophic failure.
However, one post criticizes the uses of these analogies and argues that modern AI and neural networks are a new and unique field that has no historical precedent similar to how quantum mechanics is difficult to explain using intuitions from everyday physics. The author illustrates several ways that ML systems defy intuitions derived from engineering fields like rocketry or computer science:
In summary, the post argues that analogies to hard engineering fields may cause us to overestimate the difficulty of the AI alignment problem even when the empirical reality suggests solutions might be surprisingly tractable.
Three counterarguments to the book's three core arguments
in the previous section, I identified three reasons why the authors believe that AI alignment is extremely difficult:
Based on the counterarguments above, I will now specify three counterarguments against AI alignment being difficult that aim to directly refute each of the three points above:
Conclusion
In this book review, I have tried to summarize the arguments for and against the authors' main beliefs in their strongest form, a form of deliberation ladder to help identify what's really true. Though hopefully I haven't created a "false balance" which describes the views of both sides as equally valid even if one side has much stronger arguments.
While the book explores a variety of interesting ideas, this review focuses specifically on the expected difficulty of ASI alignment because I believe the authors' belief that ASI alignment is difficult is the fundamental assumption underlying many of their other beliefs and recommendations.
Writing the summary of the book’s main arguments initially left me confident that they were true. However, after writing the counterarguments sections I'm much less sure. On balance, I find the book's main arguments somewhat more convincing than the counterarguments though I'm not sure.
What's puzzling is how two highly intelligent people can live in the same world but come to radically different conclusions: some people (such as the authors) view an existential catastrophe from AI as a near-certainty, while others see it as a remote possibility (many of the critics).
My explanation is that each group is focusing on different parts of the evidence. By describing both views, I've attempted to assemble the full picture.
So what should we believe about the future of AI?
I think the best way to move forward is to assign probabilities to various optimistic and pessimistic scenarios based on the strengths of the arguments while continually updating our beliefs based on new evidence. Then we should take the actions that has the highest expected value.
A final recommendation, which comes from the book Superintelligence is to pursue actions that are robustly good: actions that would be considered desirable from a variety of different perspectives such as AI safety research, international cooperation between companies and countries, and the establishment of AI red lines: specific behaviors such as autonomous hacking that are unacceptable.
Appendix
Other high-quality reviews of the book:
See also the IABIED LessWrong tag which contains several other book reviews.