Not to derail on details, but what would it mean to solve alignment?
To me “solve” feels overly binary and final compared to the true challenge of alignment. Like, would solving alignment mean:
I’m really not sure which you mean, which makes it hard for me to engage with your question.
PhD level intelligence is below AGI in intelligence.
Human PhDs are generally intelligent. If you had an artificial intelligence that was generally intelligent, surely that would be an artificial general intelligence?
- Current AI seems aligned to the best of its ability.
- PhD level researchers would eventually solve AI alignment if given enough time.
- PhD level intelligence is below AGI in intelligence.
- There is no clear reason why current AI using current paradigm technology would become unaligned before reaching PhD level intelligence.
- We could train AI until it reaches PhD level intelligence, and then let it solve AI Alignment, without itself needing to self improve.
Points (1) and (4) seem the weakest here, and the rest not very relevant.
There are hundreds of examples already published and even in mainstream public circulation where current AI does not behave in human interests to the best of its ability. Mostly though they don't even do anything relevant to alignment, and much of what they say on matters of human values is actually pretty terrible. This is despite the best efforts of human researchers who are - for the present - far in advance of AI capabilities.
Even if (1) were true, by the time you get to the sort of planning capability that humans require to carry out long-term research tasks, you also get much improved capabilities for misalignment. It's almost cute when a current toy AI does things that appear misaligned. It would not be at all cute if a RC 150 (on your scale) AI has the same degree of misalignment "on the inside" but is capable of appearing aligned while it seeks recursive self improvement or other paths that could lead to disaster.
Furthermore, there are surprisingly many humans who are actively trying to make misaligned AI, or at best with reckless disregard to whether their AIs are aligned. Even if all of these points were true, yes perhaps we could train an AI to solve alignment eventually, but will that be good enough to catch every possible AI that may be capable of recursive self-improvement or other dangerous capabilities before alignment is solved, or without applying that solution?
I believe there are people with far greater knowledge than me that can point out where I am wrong. Cause I do believe my reasoning is wrong, but I can not see why it would be highly unfeasible to train a sub-AGI intelligent AI that most likely will be aligned and able to solve AI alignment.
My assumptions are as follows:
The point I am least confident in, is 4, since we have no clear way of knowing at what intelligence level an AI model would become unaligned.
Multiple organisations seem to already think that training AI that solves alignment for us is the best path (e.g. superalignment).
Attached is my mental model of what intelligence different tasks require, and different people have.
Figure 1: My mental model of natural research capability RC (basically IQ with higher correlation for research capabilities), where intelligence needed to align AI is above average PhD level, but below smartest human in the world, and even further from AGI.