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The Mom Test for AI Extinction Scenarios
Valentin20261mo41
  1. The idea of total extinction might seem wild for non-nerds. Maybe it is good to start with small things:
    -the job you are doing will be done by AI 
    -whatever education you or your kids get in college, it won't give you a job
    -even if you are working on AI with AI you still can be replaced completely by AI

    This may at least make them to think more about impact on society and importance of the problem on the gut level, and from there we could go to more serious issues
  2. I would say the nuclear war would be the least sci-fi scenario. Arm race leads to using AI everywhere to beat the opponent, including systems responsible for observing and responding to opponent's missile strikes, and then it goes rogue.
  3. I think bioweapons can be persuasive.  We know that there are viruses like smallpox with very high lethality and very big virulence. Actually COVID and smallpox would be a good starting point for explanation. I would say something like: "Remember COVID spread everywhere despite all restrictions? Its incubation period was roughly 2 weeks. For smallpox, it can be like 40 days. It is incredibly viral.  In a modern world, in 40 days it will be everywhere, and then it is too late. Lethality rate 50-80%. And for smallpox we have a vaccine, that is why we are safe against a smallpox. AI already designs viruses and can easily be used to design something like smallpox, but for which this vaccine does not work".      
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Hyperbolic trend with upcoming singularity fits METR capabilities estimates.
Valentin20263mo90

Thank you very much for catching the mistake! I checked, you are completely right. 

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How AI researchers define AI sentience? Participate in the poll
Valentin20264mo10

I don't think they passed it in a full sense. Before LLM, there was a 5 minute Turing test, and some chatbots were passing it. I think 5 minutes is not enough. I bet that if you give me 10 hours, any currently existing LLM and human, we will communicate only via text, I will be able to figure out who is who (if both will try hard to persuade in their humanity). I don't think LLM can come up yet with a consistent non-contradicting life story. It would be an interesting experiment :)

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How AI researchers define AI sentience? Participate in the poll
Valentin20264mo10

Would you mean similarity on the outer level (e.g. Turing test) or at inner (e.g. neural network structure should resemble brain structure?
If the first - would it mean that when AI passes Turing test it would be sentient?
If the second - what are the criteria for similarity?  Full brain emulation or something less complicated?

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Foom & Doom 1: “Brain in a box in a basement”
Valentin20265mo40
  1. Are you working with SOTA model? Here, mathematicians report a quite different story  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-secret-meeting-where-mathematicians-struggled-to-outsmart-ai/
  2. I guess "good at" was improper wording. I did not mean that they do not produce nonsense. I meant that sometimes they can produce a correct solution. It is like the person may be not fit for running 100 meters in 10 seconds every day, but even if they do it in 5% of cases this is already impressive, and shows that it is possible in principle. And I guess "Ph.D. level" sounded like they can write a Ph.D. thesis from scratch. I just meant that there are short well-formulated problems that would require Ph.D. student a few hours, if not few days, which current LLM can solve in non negligible number of cases.    
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Foom & Doom 1: “Brain in a box in a basement”
Valentin20265mo3-3

Can you expand your argument why LLM will not reach AGI? Like, what exactly is the fundamental obstacle they will never pass? So far they successfully doing longer and longer (for humans ) tasks https://benjamintodd.substack.com/p/the-most-important-graph-in-ai-right
I neither can see why in a few generations LLM won't be able to run a company, as you suggested. Moreover, I don't see why it is necessary to get to AGI. LLM are already good at solving complicated, Ph.D. level mathematical problems, which improves. Essentially, we just need an LLM version of AI researcher. To create ASI you don't need a billion of Sam Altmans, you need a billion of Ilya Sutskevers. Is there any reason to assume LLM will never be able to become an excellent AI researcher? 

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Universal Basic Income and Poverty
Valentin20261y*-1-2

I agree, they have a really bad life, but Eliezer seems to talk here about those who work 60 hours/week to ensure their kids will go to a good school. Slightly different problem. 

And on homeless people, there are different cases. In some UBI indeed will help. But, unfortunately, in many cases the person has mental health problems or addiction, and simply giving them money may not help. 

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Universal Basic Income and Poverty
Valentin20261y21

I feel that one of the key elements of the problem is misplaced anxiety. If the ancient farmer stops working hard he will not not get enough food. So all his family will be dead.  In modern Western society, the risk of being dead from not working is nearly zero. (You are way more likely to die from exhausting yourself and working too hard).  When someone works too hard, usually it is not fear of dying too earlier, or that kids will die. It is a fear of failure, being the underdog, not doing what you are supposed to, and plenty of other constructs that ancient people simply did not reach - first they needed to survive. In this sense, we are way better than even one hundred years ago. 
Can UBI eliminate this fear? Maybe partially it can help, but people will still likely work hard to preserve their future and the future of their children. Maybe making psychotherapy (t address the fear itself) more available for those with low income is a better solution. I understand that it would require training way more specialists than we have now. However, some people report a benefit from talking with GPT as a therapist https://x.com/Kat__Woods/status/1644021980948201473 , maybe it can help. 

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LessWrong Community Weekend 2024 [applications closed]
Valentin20261y10

What is the application deadline? I did not find it in the post. Thank you!

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Mentorship in AGI Safety (MAGIS) call for mentors
Valentin20261y10

Yes, absolutely! We will open the application for mentee later

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