LESSWRONG
LW

278
Wikitags
You are viewing version 1.3.0 of this page. Click here to view the latest version.

Self-Deception

Edited by brook, et al. last updated 1st Oct 2020
You are viewing revision 1.3.0, last edited by Swimmer963 (Miranda Dixon-Luinenburg)

On LessWrong, a common distinction is between beliefs as expectation-controllers and other things people commonly label as beliefs. When these different things conflict, a person is said to have deceived themselves.

See also: Anticipated Experiences, Motivated Reasoning, Rationalization

An example from No, Really, I've Deceived Myself:

When this woman was in high school, she thought she was an atheist.  But she decided, at that time, that she should act as if she believed in God.  And then—she told me earnestly—over time, she came to really believe in God.

So far as I can tell, she is completely wrong about that.  Always throughout our conversation, she said, over and over, "I believe in God", never once, "There is a God."  When I asked her why she was religious, she never once talked about the consequences of God existing, only about the consequences of believing in God.  Never, "God will help me", always, "my belief in God helps me".  When I put to her, "Someone who just wanted the truth and looked at our universe would not even invent God as a hypothesis," she agreed outright.

She hasn't actually deceived herself into believing that God exists or that the Jewish religion is true.  Not even close, so far as I can tell.

On the other hand, I think she really does believe she has deceived herself.

Subscribe
Discussion
2
Subscribe
Discussion
2
Posts tagged Self-Deception
398The hostile telepaths problem
Valentine
1y
93
135No, Really, I've Deceived Myself
Eliezer Yudkowsky
17y
90
40Forcing yourself to keep your identity small is self-harm
Gordon Seidoh Worley
5y
10
228Belief in Belief
Eliezer Yudkowsky
18y
179
206Ends Don't Justify Means (Among Humans)
Eliezer Yudkowsky
17y
98
197The Loudest Alarm Is Probably False
orthonormal
8y
28
109Doublethink (Choosing to be Biased)
Eliezer Yudkowsky
18y
169
68Trivers on Self-Deception
Scott Alexander
14y
27
337Inside Views, Impostor Syndrome, and the Great LARP
johnswentworth
2y
53
174The Third Alternative
Eliezer Yudkowsky
18y
86
120Unwitting cult leaders
Kaj_Sotala
5y
9
106Belief in Self-Deception
Eliezer Yudkowsky
17y
114
101Things You’re Allowed to Do: University Edition
Saul Munn
2y
13
95Dragon Agnosticism
jefftk
1y
75
95Of Two Minds
Valentine
7y
12
Load More (15/76)
Add Posts