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JanPro's Shortform

by JanPro
28th Jun 2024
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[-]JanPro1y3414

Prediction markets but the underlying currency is not $ but an index fund (e.g. S&P500).

People don't want to lock up their money when the world is growing and the currency is inflating.

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[-]Adrian Kelly1y101

IBKR just announced a new prediction market, and it pays interest on the value of your positions (fed funds rate minus 0.5%)

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[-]leogao1y73

One problem is that the outcome may itself be strongly correlated with the S&P 500, which would mess up the probabilities

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[-]kave1y60

IIRC, Kalshi has this (aspirationally) on their roadmap, but I think the regulatory hurdles are even more severe than for $-denominated prediction markets.

See also Vitalik betting against Trump on EVM prediction markets by taking out a loan on his ETH to keep ETH exposure.

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[-]Dagon1y*41

Hmm, I wonder how long the term and how thin the spread must be for this to be financially equivalent to just betting the S&P500.  I think it's a promising idea to take away the first-level objection, but I'd love to hear from actual financial analysts or traders about when it's enough to get them to invest/bet. 

The fundamental problem of long-dated transactions having either large counterparty risk or locked-up assets (which ALWAYS have some sort of option/liquidity value that's given up) isn't solvable, but this may make it somewhat better.

 

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