Could you expand more on this? Not so much on the community side, but on the idea of rationality? What's your experience of improvement there? I don't think I really believe that you experienced serious benefits from learning rationality. I wish I had better information about this, I'm mostly just going off of vibes. I also wish I had better information about the state of the art of sanity-waterline raising. I think there's also two ways to break down the sanity project, which is one- can you make a receptive audience rational or improve their lives through rationality, and two, can you raise the societal sanity waterline, like make the average person saner. I'm interested in the model where schools are generally a big cause of the problem of societal irrationality, but that doesn't seem like something people talk about much in this community.