I'm surprised by your confusion at Pope Leo's juxtaposition of Babel and Nehemiah, as the metaphor seemed rather clear to me, while the 'candidate interpretations' you provided feel very modern and out of place. It's possible that this comes down to differences in exegetical tradition between Christian and Jewish schools of thought, in which case I'm probably not properly equipped to bridge that gap. Assuming not, however, I'll give a stab at my understanding.
Starting from the text: the builders of Babel say
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves; otherwise we shall be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.” The Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which mortals had built. And the Lord said, “Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Come, let us go down, and confuse their language there, so that they will not understand one another’s speech.
There are a few things I want to point out. First, the intentions of the builders are directly self-glorifying: to make a name for themselves, to aggrandize themselves through great works. Secondly, the motivation for the construction is a sense of vulnerability: they fear the prospect of being 'scattered abroad', and seek to create an anchoring-point to hold their population in one place. Yet this is directly opposed to God's prior command to "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth", and (in Catholic thought, at least) this of command is not made out of pique, but because it is the proper orientation for human life. That is to say: God has laid out a plan for mankind; mankind is afraid of what will happen if they let that plan unfold, because doing so would mean giving up control; they seek to forestall God's plan through their own power; in doing so, they harm themselves. God's subsequent intervention merely restores the proper order of the world.
The parallels to AI seem clear. Those who seek to build AI do so largely out of a combination fear, greed, and pride (also greed, but that's perhaps less relevant for the Babel analogy so I'll ignore it for now). The leaders of the labs are afraid of China (or another lab) winning a 'race to AGI', and all harbor some level of a prideful desire to see their own worldview 'conquer the lightcone'. The engineers on the ground have FOMO plus the obvious vainglory of working at a cool lab and being acclaimed by their peers. More than either of those though, everyone is afraid of death, and many AI boosters claim that the risk of AI is justified either because it'll fix death or because we'll destroy ourselves anyways if we don't build AGI soon. The Catholic view, of course, is that mankind cannot actually destroy ourselves (because we have to make it to the Second Coming), death is a natural part of life (and indeed how you get to heaven), and that God's plan should+will determine the future of the lightcone. So AI is the modern Babel because it is man's attempt to defy God's plan through a misplaced sense of confidence in our own capabilities and our own sense of what the world 'should be like'.
It’s a weird document. Much of it is not about AI at all. I do agree with the Pope’s most basic point on AI, which is that AI can be what we make of it.
Yes, AI is what we make of it, and the Pope also provides an opinion on which outcomes are good and bad from the perspective of the Catholic church. Specifically, the crucial part is the impact of the AI on Average Joe's life.
If the Average Joe starves and dies, or survives as a homeless beggar, or is reduced to a mere toy in the hands of the ones who own the killbots, that is considered bad.
If the Average Joe can live without unnecessary suffering, if he has some meaningful control left over his own fate... and probably a few more things because I am not reading this too carefully... that is considered good.
The parts that are not directly about AI are there to explain why this is the traditional perspective of the Catholic church, not just an ad-hoc reaction to the latest technology, or a Pope's personal blogpost about AI.
- Christianity is The Way.
- Christianity is The Way.
More like:
Every generation has its specific problems.
And the Catholic church always provides its advice on the problem.
- Rebuilding of Jerusalem via Nehemiah shows value of diversity? Confused.
Rebuilding of Jerusalem via Nehemiah is an example of cooperating with all the stakeholders, as opposed to imposing a top-down solution.
- We must avoid ‘Babel syndrome’ and instead choose Way of Nehemiah. Diversity. Avoid a common language. Good things like peace, justice, fraternity, God.
Authoritarian solutions are always tempting; AI is just another tool that can be used for this purpose. Instead, let's cooperate to create a system where different people can pursue diverse goals.
- Do not try to fix the limits and weaknesses of humanity. That can lead to inequality. True fulfillment is about the least well off people.
(WTF, you are not even trying to read with understanding. Did the Pope kill your puppy or what?)
Humans sometimes suck. Letting them suffer is still bad. Everyone deserves a chance.
- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
ADBOC. The typical use of this slogan suggests to distribute everything. In an era of abundance, 1% might be enough to feed the poor, and hopefully the difference between 99% and 100% would not cripple the economy or whatever horrible consequences of feeding the poor are you imagining. If EA is not socialism, neither is this.
- Speak no evil. All power to our socialist central planners.
(OK, you are not even pretending to actually read the document; you are just scanning for potentially triggering keywords. As if "planning" was never used in a context other than socialism.)
Cooperation requires polite, nonviolent communication, and sincerity. Don't bullshit, don't scare. Consider how our choices impact other people.
(Ok, it mostly gets better later.)
This is the Socialist perspective on economics and development and opportunity and the importance of equality and disdain for profit and self-interest
You just made that up. The actual message is that profit should not be the only thing that matters.
The usual context of equality is "equal dignity and rights", and that too much inequality typically makes the poor starved or be controlled by the rich. (That is, the problem is not inequality per se, but starving and control.)
The Pope is simply incorrect about where wealth and development come from, and what causes prosperity.
I think he does not talk about it at all. If you tried to read this text as Economics 101, it's a different genre.
This is not about whether converting the Average Joe to paperclips increases or decreases GDP. This is about the position of the Catholic church that converting the Average Joe to paperclips is morally wrong.
Indeed, current AI systems are more “cultivated” than “built,” for developers do not directly design every detail, but instead create a framework within which the intelligence “grows.”
I was surprised to see the metaphor lifted from IABIED. It's a pity that nothing else from that book made an impact on the encyclical.
thus avoiding the need to discuss any of the problems surrounding existential risk
There's another unspoken assumption that makes AI x-risk not worthy of mention by the Pope: the end of humanity has to be compatible with a Second Coming narrative. Nuclear war could fit the bill (and indeed, Leo mentions it), but AGI takeover is really difficult to square with it (Scott Alexander joke posts notwithstanding).
His holiness has spoken, frequently about AI. At eighty two pages of length.
The full Magnifica Humanitas can be found here.
I am very happy that Pope Leo takes these issues seriously, and is sharing his views, and bringing a form of moral clarity, even with all the flaws and central errors. More people with voice should share their views in this way, even when I disagree.
It’s a weird document. Much of it is not about AI at all.
I do agree with the Pope’s most basic point on AI, which is that AI can be what we make of it. That we can steer this technology, determine how it is developed and used, and this can determine whether we get a good or not so good future. We cannot purely leave this to market incentives and strategic pressures. Yes, very much so.
The central problem is that so much of Leo’s worldview is some combination, to me, of highly alien and highly wrong. You might think that would primarily have a lot to do with him being the Pope and rather Catholic, and being a man of faith, whereas I am not these things.
If so, you would be wrong. That seems to have remarkably little to do with all of this.
There was also a lot of good here, but I was centrally disappointed on three fronts:
You want some amount of people pushing in the direction of peace and mercy and dialogue and watching out for the poor and disempowered, and calling on us to do more for our fellow man. So as part of a balanced bigger picture, this could be actively good, but Europe has shown us the peril of lacking this balance.
This post will summarize the whole thing, going number by number, with occasional commentary focused on the key AI section in the middle.
Anthropic cofounder Chris Olah visited the Vatican for the occasion. He endorsed the document, but also offered remarks disagreeing with the central point (paragraph 99). I’ll discuss that afterwards, along with how the media viewed the release.
Table of Contents
A Brief History of Magnifica Humanitas
Chapters 1 and 2 lay out some history. Any Pope is going to be a huge history nerd and set all this in its historical context. Leo does not disappoint.
On to chapter 2, foundations and principles of church doctrine.
Economic Models Very Different From Our Own
This view, laid out in the first two chapters, is a very different perspective and worldview than my own, and this has remarkably little to do with belief the the divine or a lack thereof.
This is the Socialist perspective on economics and development and opportunity and the importance of equality and disdain for profit and self-interest, with an extreme focus on labor and jobs, which I think is wrong and leads to worse results for everyone.
This is much better than failing to care about humanity’s experience on Earth, or focusing purely on direct aid to the poor, or attempting to outright seize the resources although this doctrine is clearly flirting with quite a lot of this, and the dedication to the value of development is admirable.
The Pope is simply incorrect about where wealth and development come from, and what causes prosperity. He is also wrong about what he sees as a ‘widening gap’ between nations, whereas global inequality has been steadily falling for a while.
Dean Ball is exactly correct that Leo is casting himself in the role of a European technocrat throughout. I had exactly the same thought.
Leo both is using so many of the talking points of the European technocrats, and also has deeply absorbed their worldview, except with a more left-wing economic bent. This is true no matter how much those points originated with the Church.
Even in the places where the Pope is obviously correct, it’s often rather alarming that he needs to affirm his position out loud, as if it was a live question.
You definitely need some of this, and it would not be that Christian to have a position that much closer to my own. The Pope, it turns out, is somewhat Catholic.
A New Jerusalem
I too like the story of rebuilding Jerusalem. I don’t get the Babel versus Jerusalem metaphor. Leo clearly thinks this is an important distinction, and is his central hook, but why? Babel had too much central planning and not enough community impact meetings? Babel would have been too productive and efficient, or its methods broke down and were the opposite? Was it an affront because it challenged the power of God or because it didn’t work? Did Babel’s common language break down because God decreed it, or because of the SNAFU principle? Jerusalem was rebuilding and Babel was a new unnatural thing? Why is Babel dehumanizing?
This simply doesn’t match up with the actual Babel story.
I can tell a Just So Story or gloss over the details, and pretend I get it, and I know vaguely what he means and it’s probably good enough for our purposes anyway, or go off the vibes, but I do notice the whole thing doesn’t really work and the whole thing has been flipped around.
So Sayeth The Pope (on AI)
Now that we’ve laid that groundwork, we can move on to Chapter Three.
So far there has been no differentiating principle. Artificial intelligence is treated the same way as other techs. If we are going to treat AI differently than we treat other techs, we need to make clear our differentiating principle.
Finally, with #97, the Pope gets to talking about AI directly.
As it is one of the best statements, and an important thing to know, I’ll quote 98:
On the one hand, You Should Know This Already, and Everybody Knows, and it’s the easiest thing in the world to call for scientific research and also moral and spiritual discernment. On the other hand, it’s rather important to get it right, and a lot of people pretend we understand AI far more than we do. Without a statement like this we would be in a lot more trouble.
It’s worth quoting extensively rather than paraphrasing, as this full statement is load bearing and also, well, citation needed:
A lot of this is assertion without evidence of positions that are rather non-obvious to me, and where there are those who strongly claim the other side. One could very easily argue the other side.
We have spent the first 96 paragraphs building a worldview around the least of us, of the essential dignity and value of all humanity and the poorest and least capable among us, all made in the image of God. Then the next two noticing our confusion.
And then we come along, and mostly without argument draw this barrier, where we exclude AI from both our moral circles and the group of minds that we have to model as minds, permanently, warning that doing otherwise would be a mistake, and also asserting by implication that AI is and will always be a mere tool in these ways, thus avoiding the need to discuss any of the problems surrounding existential risk.
I mean, it’s not not criticizing the Pope for being Catholic, but he can change what that means, and Leo’s shown a lot of signs he can be smarter than this.
Roberto points out that this is far from a maximally denialist Catholic position on these questions. Leo is accepting that AI is highly capable in many ways. It’s a start.
It’s not obvious who is influencing who in which ways, but the result is similar. It’s entirely possible that they converged on similar places for their own reasons.
Thus, after all that, the next section is entitled ‘a valuable tool that requires vigilance.’
There are still plenty of difficult, important and interesting questions surrounding AI, but the ones that I think matter most are basically hand waved away here, at the start.
Highlighting the environmental concerns, especially water, up top is a blunder.
This is dangerously close to a fully general argument against information or intelligence. It is, at minimum, an argument for the universality of politics and that nothing can ever be ‘purely a technical matter.’ Essentially anything that does anything is going to ‘enter processes that impact lives.’ How is this to be differentiated from a phone or a computer or an abacus or a law? Should we not delegate important decisions to predetermined processes that do not, as Leo puts it, ‘know compassion, mercy, forgiveness and above all, the hope that people are able to change?’
If anything, AI knows those things far better than the law books or the telephone, or the non-AI algorithm, and perhaps it knows them as well or better than most humans, at least terms of its ability to take such considerations into account when making decisions. Why should we presume that a human would take them into consideration better?
Manipulation of information and violation of privacy and bias are of course considerations, but they are for humans as well, often more so especially for bias. Privacy is a heightened concern in many ways, which is due to AI’s ability to process so much more information, but also AI can be privacy preserving because it can allow the processing of information while reliably not sharing that information with another party.
This is a complaint about law and procedure and algorithms, rather than about AI, as again AI can actually take those things into account. Also, one should notice that in many cases strict rules are far better for the poor and vulnerable, as they lack connections and sympathy and often face discrimination and undeserved mistrust.
Consider the simple example of college admissions. In the name of ‘inequality’ certain types convinced many schools to get rid of the ‘algorithm’ of the SAT. But it turns out it goes the other way, that the SAT gives the poor students far more slots and chances than ‘holistic admissions.’ If you want the algorithm to favor those who need help, don’t ask a person. Build a better algorithm.
This is not possible, any more than it would be possible for a human mind. It amounts to a prohibition on such AI decisions. Which is a position, but own it.
I notice we are back to not having a differentiating principle, and using standard reasons to oppose change.
I’m going to quote 107, since it also seems rather important.
This pivots not to a morality determined by the polis in some sensible or democratic fashion, to a call for a process capable of ‘slowing things down’ so that ‘communities’ can ‘participate and ask questions.’ This is such a milquetoast, ‘civil society’ coded, standard obstructionist and rent seeking way of putting things, where certain types feel that anything that happens needs the approval and input of all their designated groups, and that ‘slowing down’ via such a process is an inherently good thing, and the thing being slowed down is diffusion here, which helps no one.
Citation needed, both historically and for AI, especially outside the short term. Nor does such inequality mainly flow through these types of decisions or data selling, so such responses wouldn’t fix any such issues.
Leo continually reinforces that he does not understand the dangers I consider most important, and that we have very fundamental disagreements about how economics and the world work in ‘normal’ ways as well. I don’t want to belabor either too much, and get back to the ‘this is what was said’ style of the first two chapters, rather than pointing out all my disagreements.
Yes, this is a true and important point, but ‘so don’t maximize or be efficient’ is not a reasonable response.
The Case Against Human Achievement
Um, yeah. So he said all that. Paging Harrison Bergeron, among others. Yikes.
I must say, it is pretty rich to be the literal actual Pope, promising eternal heaven to the faithful, and to say that ‘finitude does not diminish us.’
I thought Prometheus was a righteous dude.
Truth, Justice and the Vatican Way
Okay, that’s chapter three. Chapter four is about safeguarding humanity. The how. The first focus is on truth and education.
I can see a case for requiring open algorithms for algorithmic feeds of major platforms, or indeed even for letting people choose their own algorithms. I can get behind that. It doesn’t address AI, though.
Leo believes in ‘old school’ school and teaching methods, both in terms of school itself and in terms of learning individual things. I mostly believe in it for the individual learning of things, and mostly don’t believe in ‘old school’ school.
They Took Our Jobs
Leo next discusses work and unemployment.
In case it need be said, I believe that trying to force these kinds of things on the economy is vastly more destructive than primarily using redistribution, and at scale it is economic suicide.
Leo is proposing the European labor protection policies that helped cripple the continent, except at greater scale. One notes that such labor protections did not seem to much help fertility or family formation.
What Is Not Fair In Love and War
This leads into chapter five, ‘the culture of power and the civilization of love.’
The diagnosis has some validity, in its own way. The prescription, less so.
The key action items here are recorded kill chain with a human in the loop, and calling for an international agreement to curtail the technological arms race (which is the wrong target, it should be frontier AI, but he doesn’t believe in even current AI, not really, let alone ASI, so that is understandable).
And there is a general call to hope and the Civilization of Love:
The culture of negotiation is a different culture of power.
The rest of the war section is largely warning that things are getting worse on these fronts, which is largely true but is not especially actionable or new. I agree the recent trend is negative, and it can happen again, also remember that it used to happen really a lot. Old man yells at crowd, tells kids to get off lawn energy.
Come Ye Christian Faithful
We then have the conclusion, which is a call addressed to Christians. I’m probably not as good at usefully parsing and summarizing a lot of this, cause actual Catholicism seems like a really strange mystery religion from here, but it’s presumably fine.
Alas. Leo does not see it, and is solving the wrong problem, using… ya know.
The Other Missing Mood
Zohar Atkins says Leo is right humans have a unique dignity but wrong about many things, most importantly the idea that humans cannot ‘win on our own merits’ against AI and that AI will threaten our jobs, and that he has the wrong mood.
What’s weird is that given Leo and Zohar’s shared implied prediction here that AI won’t become sufficiently advanced, humans would remain useful, and thus Zohar would be centrally right. But I think both of them are very wrong about that, and thus Leo is right to be concerned about the threat to work, although it should not be such a primary concern compared to things Leo does not mention.
Unfortunately, Leo’s denial that AI can be a mind and failure to consider superintelligence meant he did not engage directly with many key issues, including those surrounding existential risk. What happens when AI is a lot smarter than us?
Leo thus instead focuses instead on questions of responsibility, and of location and concentration of power and wealth.
One also cannot address the question of the potential moral patienthood of AIs, if one dismisses such possibilities out of hand.
Perhaps the issue was our expectations?
Pope Given About Five Words
Whereas here’s how the Financial Times summarized that: Pope Leo XIV warns AI revolution driven by ‘idolatry of profit.’
That’s not an unreasonable central takeaway, although it misses a lot.
This idolatry is partially there, but it is important to note that it is also the idolatry of AI itself and of potential superintelligence, so the Golden Calf works on multiple levels, but Leo declined to mention it.
What else was noticed?
They also note that Leo called for humans to be retained in the kill chain, a la Anthropic’s insistence, and for some particular person to always have ultimate responsibility for lethal choices, which was his most actionable concrete ask.
Leo warned against ‘opaque algorithms’ and called for transparency and accountability for all AI tools used in public life. He was quite big on that, indeed.
They highlight that he warned against transhumanist and posthumanist visions, in ways that I found highly unconvincing. Again, Pope.
Francis Rocca in The Atlantic correctly centers Leo’s concern about unemployment and prescriptions for government regulation, the need for democratic control over tech platforms, and his concerns about AI in war and the rise of war in general.
Stancati and Schechner of the WSJ focus on the Babel metaphor, as Leo himself does in his Twitter presentation of this, and on Leo’s warnings about an anti-human vision, and briefly check concerns on jobs and autonomous weapons.
The NYT focused on ‘warnings about risks from AI.’
The Washington Post saw Leo calling for guardrails, Anthropic’s participation, and the apology for the Church’s failure to be more proactive on slavery, while George Weigel’s op-ed focuses on the underlying message of hope and the two cities metaphor, and it quotes 99 extensively.
CNN focused on war and concentration of power concerns.
NPR’s Claire Giangrave saw this as Leo taking aim at big tech as a call to regulate and to disarm AI.
Business Insider gathered reactions of others.
0The Anthropic Principle
Anthropic cofounder Chris Olah visited the Pope and gives remarks on Magnifica Humanitas.
Olah cited the need for outside influences like the Church to check the profit motive.
He said our duties are to the global poor and to support those displaced by AI, the need for moral ambition and ambition regarding human flourishing, and for discernment on the nature of AI models. Computer scientists are not equipped to handle the issues alone, even if their motives were pure.
He promises a long collaboration, and tries gently to suggest what AI already is.
I found Olah’s full statement to be quite good, including that it avoided endorsing the aspects of the Magnifica Humanitas that were incorrect.
Claude Can Read Your Code
Dean Ball says Olah is flatly contradicting the encyclical, because #99 says AIs do not feel joy or pain, whereas Olah says that the models functionally mirror joy and grief:
The question is a big deal, including in how it is read by future Claudes.
I would say there is no inherent philosophical contradiction. Functional mirroring does not have to, in Catholic parlance, give one a soul. If you say AIs cannot think, you still cannot pretend they do not ‘functionally mirror’ various forms of thinking, you simply say that Thinking Is Magic and have some kind of essentialism.
Chris Olah is doing the correct diplomatic move: