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This post is the 7th post in a series of 11 posts about the claims of Sam Altman's sister, Annie Altman. Annie has claimed that Sam sexually abused her for about 9 years as a child, and that she experienced further (non-sexual) abuse from Sam, her brothers, and her mother after that.

The 11 posts are meant to be read in order.

So, if you haven't read the first 6 posts, please read them, in order, before you read this post:

Sam Altman's sister claims Sam sexually abused her -- Part 1: Introduction, outline, author's notes
Sam Altman's sister claims Sam sexually abused her -- Part 2: Annie's lawsuit; the response from Sam, his brothers, and his mother; Timeline
Sam Altman's sister claims Sam sexually abused her -- Part 3: Timeline, continued
Sam Altman's sister claims Sam sexually abused her -- Part 4: Timeline, continued
Sam Altman's sister claims Sam sexually abused her -- Part 5: Timeline, continued
Sam Altman's sister claims Sam sexually abused her -- Part 6: Timeline, continued continued

Timeline, continued continued

Late 2020: Sam purchases a $15.7 million ranch home in Napa, California [BI23a].

Annie, unable to afford a stable place to live, experiences a long period of housing insecurity, at times living with strangers from the Internet, sleeping on the floor, and living in numerous places with no running water or electricity.

Ellen Huet {see [BB24d]}: "{Annie} also did in-person sex work for two years. She says she didn't want to, but it was the work that she was able to fit into her unpredictable schedule of dealing with her health issues. Her lack of stable income, led to a long period of housing insecurity. At times, she lived with sex work clients, or even with strangers from the internet. Her sex work contributed to her precarious housing. She didn't have pay stubs or regular income, which limited the kind of leases she could get. It felt like this interconnected web, exactly the kind of vicious cycle that something like universal basic income tries to break." [BB24d]
Annie Altman: "If I had a security deposit in my bank account - {I} never would have lived with this man, not, not even a little bit of a chance, would I have lived with this man. There's some unhealthy sex work experiences, and I've also had very traumatizing experiences from in-person work that would not have happened if I had secure housing. I'm still in and, have been so long in, survival mode that it really shifts everything. It really shifts everything. Times when it's been really like...places...like staying just for a week and a half {somewhere} and then the floor for a week, and then someone's place for a night, and then a floor for a week - in those places of really moving that much in a short period of time, there's no - I had no energy for anything else. Really feeling a sense of helplessness and powerlessness that I have never experienced, ever." [BB24d]

More from [BB24c]:

Ellen Huet: "I'm driving through the lush green forests of Maui. Annie Altman, Sam Altman's little sister is sitting in the passenger seat. You heard from her briefly in the first episode."
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Ellen Huet: "We're taking a tour of the different places Annie has moved around in the last couple of years, driving down dirt roads to look at cabins and houses hidden behind enormous tropical plants."
Ellen Huet: "For much of the past two years, Annie hasn't been able to afford a stable place to live."
Annie Altman: "The place you just passed is one of the places I stayed at longer-term in all of the houselessness...{I spent} two months on a newly-built, {with} no running water or no electricity, house, at the far end, back, of the property."
Ellen Huet: "And I think she's an important part of Sam's story."
Annie Altman: "And at the time I had nowhere to stay and no rent money, certainly no deposit money, and barely enough room, barely enough money for rent."
Ellen Huet: "Recently, over the course of just a year, she moved twenty two times, and that's on average about twice a month. Sometimes she has stayed places for a week at a time, or even just a night or two. Some of them have been illegal rentals without running water. She says she's slept on floors and friends' houses. She stayed with strangers when she didn't have another option."
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Annie Altman: "The man who lived in the front house messaged me on Instagram, and I stayed in his kids' room the week that they weren't there, and then slept on the floor in the common room the week that the kids were there.
Annie Altman: "I was houseless. I didn't have somewhere to go."
Annie Altman: "I stayed in this cabin with the slanty roof right there for three months."
{A podcast host}: "How many different places have you lived in that didn't have running water?"
Annie: "Maybe five-ish? Five or six? I don't know."
Ellen Huet: "Meanwhile, thousands of miles away in San Francisco, her brother Sam was having a spectacular year in 2023. The success of ChatGPT had launched OpenAI into the stratosphere. Sam was named CEO of the Year by Time magazine. He spent months flying around the globe talking to world leaders about AI."
Ellen Huet: "It sounds wonderful, almost utopian. But Sam was saying on stage that everyone should have enough money, enough food, everyone should have a place to live, while his own sister was struggling with homelessness. I want to believe Sam's promises about abundance, but Annie's story complicates a lot of the things Sam has projected about the future."

January 5, 2021 -- Annie publishes A shake, tap, and stretch on her YouTube channel.

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2:26 -- "And let's do a little bit of tapping, you can start on your legs, you can start on your hips. If you're not familiar with tapping, go down the YouTube rabbit hole later about tapping, tap therapy"

Note: I Googled "tap therapy", and this article came up at the top:
- What Is Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) Tapping? -- healthline.com
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    - Medically reviewed by Kerry Boyle D.Ac., M.S., L.Ac., Dipl. Ac., CYT — Written by Kiara Anthony — Updated on March 18, 2025
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    - This technique focuses on tapping the 12 meridian points of the body to relieve symptoms of a negative experience or emotion.
    - EFT is an alternative treatment for physical pain and emotional distress. It’s also referred to as tapping or psychological acupressure.
    - People who use this technique believe tapping the body can balance the energy system and treat pain. According to its developer, Gary Craig, a disruption in energy causes all negative emotions and pain.
    - Though still being researched, EFT tapping has been used to treat people with anxiety and people with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
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    - EFT tapping in 5 steps
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        EFT tapping can be divided into five steps. If you have more than one issue or fear, you can repeat this sequence to address it and reduce or eliminate the intensity of your negative feelings.
      - 1. Identify the issue
        In order for this technique to be effective, you must first identify the issue or fear you have. This will be your focal point while you’re tapping. Focusing on only one problem at a time is purported to enhance your outcome.
      - 2. Test the initial intensity
        After you identify your problem area, you need to set a benchmark level of intensity. The intensity level is rated on a scale from 0 to 10, with 10 being the worst or most difficult.
        The scale assesses the emotional or physical pain and discomfort you feel from your focal issue.
        Establishing a benchmark helps you monitor your progress after performing a complete EFT sequence. If your initial intensity was 10 prior to tapping and ended at 5, you’d have accomplished a 50% improvement level.
      - 3. The setup
        Prior to tapping, you need to establish a phrase that explains what you’re trying to address. It must focus on two main goals:
        acknowledging the issues
        accepting yourself despite the problem
        The common setup phrase is: “Even though I have this [fear or problem], I deeply and completely accept myself.”
        You can alter this phrase so that it fits your problem, but it must not address someone else’s. For example, you can’t say, “Even though my mother is sick, I deeply and completely accept myself.” You have to focus on how the problem makes you feel in order to relieve the distress it causes.
        It’s better to address this situation by saying, “Even though I’m sad my mother is sick, I deeply and completely accept myself.”
      - 4. EFT tapping sequence
        The EFT tapping sequence is the methodic tapping on the ends of nine meridian points.
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        While tapping the ascending points, recite a reminder phrase to maintain focus on your problem area. If your setup phrase is, “Even though I’m sad my mother is sick, I deeply and completely accept myself,” your reminder phrase can be, “The sadness I feel that my mother is sick.”
        Recite this phrase at each tapping point. Repeat this sequence two or three times.
      - 5. Test the final intensity
        At the end of your sequence, rate your intensity level on a scale from 0 to 10. Compare your results with your initial intensity level. If you haven’t reached 0, repeat this process until you do.
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      - What is EFT tapping used for?
        EFT has been used to effectively treat PTSD in war veterans and active military. In a 2013 studyTrusted Source, researchers studied the impact of EFT tapping on veterans with PTSD against those receiving standard care.
        Within a month, participants receiving EFT coaching sessions had significantly reduced their psychological stress. In addition, more than half of the EFT test group no longer fit the criteria for PTSD.
        There are also some success stories from people with anxiety using EFT tapping as an alternative treatment.

3:43 -- "Where's your favorite place to tap for somatic therapy? Comment below."

Note: I Googled "somatic therapy", and this article came up at the top:
- What is somatic therapy? -- health.harvard.edu
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    - Somatic therapy explores how the body expresses deeply painful experiences, applying mind-body healing to aid with trauma recovery.
    - July 7, 2023
    - By Maureen Salamon, Executive Editor, Harvard Women's Health Watch
    - Reviewed by Howard E. LeWine, MD, Chief Medical Editor, Harvard Health Publishing; Editorial Advisory Board Member, Harvard Health Publishing
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    - Trauma can register within our bodies on a cellular level. What that means to an individual — and how best to heal from serious traumas encountered in life — is the focus of a newer form of mental health counseling known as somatic therapy.
    - The resounding success of The Body Keeps the Score — a fixture on the New York Times bestseller list for more than four years running — testifies to mounting public awareness that trauma affects people deeply. Thus far, though, somatic therapy hasn't caught up to cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and related techniques in understanding, use, or research proving its worth, a Harvard expert says.
  - What is somatic therapy?
    - Most people likely haven't heard of somatic therapy, says Amanda Baker, director of the Center for Anxiety and Traumatic Stress Disorders and a clinical psychologist in the department of psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital. Unlike other mind-body approaches such as mindfulness meditation, mind-body stress reduction (MBSR), and mindfulness and self-compassion (MSC) — which are steadily growing in use — somatic therapy hasn't hit the mainstream.
    - What's the fundamental concept? "It's a treatment focusing on the body and how emotions appear within the body," Baker explains. "Somatic therapies posit that our body holds and expresses experiences and emotions, and traumatic events or unresolved emotional issues can become 'trapped' inside."
  - Who might benefit from somatic therapy?
    - Since disturbing feelings often show up in the body in debilitating ways, somatic therapy aims to drain those emotions of their power, relieving pain and other manifestations of stress, such as disrupted sleep or an inability to concentrate.
    - These types of emotions can stem from a variety of conditions and circumstances that somatic therapy may potentially help alleviate. They include
      - post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
      - complicated grief
      - depression
      - anxiety
      - trust and intimacy issues
      - self-esteem problems.
    - "Anxiety can lead to muscle tension, particularly in the neck, shoulders, jaw, and back," Baker says. "It can cause a lot of discomfort, pain, stiffness, and trouble with daily activities. If we're experiencing chronic anxiety or distress, it's almost like we have our foot on a gas pedal. It's not a panic attack, but we're never feeling a reprieve and there's a constant wear and tear on the body."
  - How does somatic therapy differ from talk therapies?
    - Typical talk therapies such as CBT engage only the mind, not the body, encouraging people to become aware of disturbing thoughts and behavior patterns and work to change them.
    - But in somatic therapy, the body is the starting point to achieve healing. This form of therapy cultivates an awareness of bodily sensations, and teaches people to feel safe in their bodies while exploring thoughts, emotions, and memories.
    - "Cognitive behavioral therapies focus on conscious thought and work on challenging thoughts in relation to anxiety and behaviors, helping desensitize people to uncomfortable sensations," Baker says. "But somatic therapy is more about relieving the tension, as opposed to desensitizing people to it."
    - Even mindfulness meditation, which some experts consider somatic in nature, differs in one key way from somatic therapy, Baker says. "Mindfulness meditation lets any feeling or emotion come into our minds without judgment, as opposed to homing in specifically on bodily sensations that are happening," she says.
  - How is somatic therapy carried out?
    - A somatic therapist helps people release damaging, pent-up emotions in their body by using various mind-body techniques. These can vary widely, ranging from acupressure and hypnosis to breathwork and dance.
    - Other techniques are just as integral but aren't household terms. Some on this list include:
      - body awareness, which helps people recognize tension spots in the body as well as conjure calming thoughts
      - pendulation, which guides people from a relaxed state to emotions similar to their traumatic experiences and then back to a relaxed state
      - titration, which guides people through a traumatic memory while noting any accompanying physical sensations and addressing them in real time
      - resourcing, which helps people recall resources in their lives that promote feelings of calm and safety, such as special people and places.
    - What to know if you're considering somatic therapy
      - Scant scientific research has focused on somatic therapy and its benefits, Baker notes. That's one reason why she always recommends cognitive behavioral therapy, which has proven benefits, as at least a starting point.
      - "Anecdotally, I've heard people do find tremendous benefit from somatic therapy, but it doesn't have the same research backing yet as CBT and some other forms of therapy," she says.
      - Health insurance may be more likely to cover somatic therapy, she says, when a person is dealing with extreme symptoms of mental trauma, such as seizures. Otherwise, insurers are more apt to cover established therapies such as CBT.
      - Additionally, finding an experienced somatic therapist can be challenging. "I think fewer folks are going to be trained in somatic therapies than CBT, so finding an experienced practitioner is definitely a tricky process," Baker says. One useful resource is the US Association for Body Psychotherapy, which offers a Find a Therapist search tool online.

14:00 -- "You wanna put a blanket under your butt -- do what you want, do as your body -- your body, your choice! [Pauses, in pigeon pose stretch] Here's a little thought experiment to keep you here. Imagine a lung that exists in your right hip. You have a third lung right on your right hip. What would it be like to breathe specifically into that lung? Maybe tap there. [Tapping her right hip] 'Hey lung!' In my imagination. Imaginary lung. 'How are you?' [Pauses, doing pigeon pose] Use an inhale as you're ready, come back up. Noticing how much the stretch changes, different angles, where does it go in your body?"
15:53 -- "My ankle wants some rolls for sure."
16:37 -- Black medical tape on Annie's left ankle and foot
17:07 -- "[doing pigeon pose] Are you breathing? And are you saying nice things? I know for me, hips and jaw start to clench, all of the like 'This is too tight, you're not-- doing this wrong, you don't do yoga enough' and I'm like '{unintelligible} what?' Is this helpful? What comes up if you do hip stretches?"
Annie repeatedly does Child's Pose throughout the video.
23:22 -- "When you're ready, find whatever pose you want. Just a few breaths, and total stillness, aside from, you know, being alive, and all your ribs moving."
24:00 -- "[Lying flat on her back, legs outstreched] Maybe you're letting go of something, maybe you don't need to be gripping so tightly."

January 19, 2021: Annie publishes the 115th episode of her podcast: 115. Communication is existential with Emma Waters

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➡️ Annie Altman (13:45): Totally. Totally. Yeah, that word is so good for him. You also brought up engaging which is a great word for this and a lot of great words here. Great great great. Great words words words and the feeling and that physical sensation. It's so physical and tangible. I feel like Often with existentialism, it can be so easy to be like, oh, it's so heavy and out there and you're getting caught in your head. 🔴🔴🔴It's also, this is a feeling, this is existential. Dread is a very physical sensation. People who if you know, you have That's so much of panic attacks symptoms and panic generally is feeling so disconnected from your body and so in the oh my gosh his body's gonna die one day. This body's gonna die. One day. This body is going to die.🔴🔴🔴 One day versus and I'm glad to you brought up the Paradox of it being both a warm When you're in the engagement and also a Serenity to go more existential to words and serenity and surrender to the flow of conversation, rather than to project a big piece of my podcasting Learning Journey, controlling the conversation of where it needs to go. And well, I need to make sure I give the person the platform to say this thing. And well, I gotta ask them about this question and how do I highlight this thing? That I know this person has a lot of experience and passion about and rather than saying okay well what are they saying? Right now and that's surrendering in. Okay, well the things will be talked about and all so wow. I'm like warm and excited and we're oh my gosh, like we're we're talking about Consciousness and communication and existentialism. Yeah, yeah. It's yeah. It's like so silly and serious at the same time too that Paradox with it. All gets to me of because as soon as we're putting words to something, right? And the communicating of it because that feeling that 🟠🟠physical feeling is a communication, your body sending you a message. And it's really different from words.🟠🟠 And then your mind using words to and someone hearing these words and having, however they Define all of these words and whatever associations and attachments, they have with these words that are coming out in again, this cluster, fuck of communicating

January 26, 2021 -- Annie publishes Legs-up-the-wall-follow-along on her YouTube channel.

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14:13 -- Blue medical tape on the inside of Annie's left leg is visible:

February 9, 2021: Annie publishes the 118th episode of her podcast: 118. Communication is seeking inclusivity with Michael Murphy #3

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➡️ Annie Altman (33:27): Yeah, thank you for going through stuff and giving I appreciate how you give each thing attention and we can together seek and really break down each bit by bit and then see how these other things get included. And then the healing of Of all of it. And I also I really appreciate you bringing up your privilege and talking about The the privilege to podcast and talk about communicating and go into all of this philosophizing and all the privilege to heal and how do we use privileges as a tool to give more people access to more healing? And I will say 🔴🔴🔴in my experience of different trauma therapies🔴🔴🔴 and talking different people about their experience with different forms of healing, trauma. So much of it. Well, so much of just general human. Healing comes back to this. Reminder that we are enough in our being to go to what you were saying, aboard, not our thoughts. And these are just the things that are going and that's not the my beingness and so much of therapy, really comes to Your inherent worthiness and enoughness 🔴🔴🔴and so much of trauma therapy. Specifically comes to this. Remembering that. And remembering that's true in this moment and in this moment, and in this moment. And then in this present moment that trauma is not happening.🔴🔴🔴 🟡And I appreciate you bringing up that part of acknowledging, how that can can be in different forms of spiritual bypassing. When people like 🔴🔴🔴we'll just forget about your being, XYZ trauma because it's not currently happening know. It happened.🔴🔴🔴 That is a part of the truth and also It's not currently happening. And that is another part of the truth and then to go back to the first part of it. And I'm so glad you brought up and it's the sea after The C of community and the need 🔴🔴🔴the literal need to talk through our stories and our beliefs, and our traumas and our all of it with other people. And with people who we feel safe to have that experience, come up where we're internally like, Fuck You, Fuck this and then go through. Oh, okay. Well, let me seek to understand that feeling that just came up and what's going on here and why? Why is that a part of it and all of this?🔴🔴🔴 Spiritual of everyone being mirrors. And people showing us These different parts of it from their conditioning of it. Like it's such a, how, like it's such a ridiculous game. Communicating it out loud. And we're all internally mind-body communicating and soul mind body, and all the things, and then communicating with other people about it. And it's like, of course, there's breakdowns and miscommunications and Ego flares. It's so goofy as you like to say the cosmic joke.

February 23, 2021: Annie publishes the 120th episode of her podcast: 120. Communication is shaped by silence with Lauren Traitz #2

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➡️ Annie Altman (20:35): it can be different in different times of what it is. And there can also be the feeling of opening and closing, which can be useful at different times of opening to The mystery. And also, you could open to the pursuit of where, where the fuck did that reaction? Just come from, or where did that impulse, come up to have that reaction and A lot of this. Practice. from for me and for what I was hearing in your sharing about it is distinguishing and differentiating, and the practice of Is this the practice of communicating as an art form? And it's the moment to say this is this the moment to say this and is this a time to say, you know, is someone it's like the classic like, hey, do you do you just want to vent, or do you want a problem solve here, like before going in? What is your intention in this conversation, friend, who's calling who's feeling stressed? Like, what are you looking for here? How can I support you? and, Here. I'm in like free association a little bit here. The other thing that came up in my head was stuff of 🔴🔴🔴women's circles and that I've participated in with the basis of Intentionally, crafting a space where someone shares whatever they want to share and no one says a damn thing. No one says a word. There's no response.🔴🔴🔴 There are no questions asked No One Compares their life story to it or says only at the resonates with me so much, which he beautiful here and all. So, 🔴🔴🔴the first time I participated in a space, where And also for me as that caretaker helper people pleaser part, where then it gave me the space to really be their emotionally in a different way rather than feeling like, oh, I need to make sure I verbalize to this person. Like, I hear you. I've had this experience. I hear you. That sounds really hard. Tell me more. Let me ask these questions.🔴🔴🔴
➡️ Annie Altman (1:10:51): Please, please. You brought up a hugely important point of Maslow's hierarchy of needs and also it being a circle. And the point here Up 🟡no amount of talk therapy is going to settle the nervous. System of someone who doesn't have access to basic human needs because you're gonna be anxious and depressed. If you cannot have those things met, it would be, it would be a strange central nervous system response,🟡 not to that, then that would actually be what would need therapy to talk through of like, You. it makes sense to have those responses to being without basic needs. And you brought up to the point of Opening up the conversation about what basic needs are to say this idea of Maslow's pyramid and the top being self-actualization and 🟠🟠being able to regulate your central nervous system🟠🟠 is also a basic human, right? And yeah, having Having those tools. And I'm again, excited to think about and to know how much is out there of tapping and meditation videos on YouTube for free and and yoga and journaling exercises and things that. Are through their actions of existing and being out there. Communicating non-verbally. that these tools are also human rights and that this is this is a really important piece of things.

March 2, 2021: Annie publishes the 121st episode of her podcast: 121. Communication is sequencing with Jessie Wren

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➡️ Annie Altman (57:53): celebrating and really being in your body and like so much of posture stuff too is To me, like things of, you know, power pose or different stances to change how you feel. And as like, I'm, I love dancing and having that as a celebration of movement and of your body, rather than I wonder too if you resonate with this part about. And it sounds like stuff. You know, you said you came into yoga for healing and I feel like in my experience with yoga and life things and then that reflecting on how I go about life and learning from that, is this very extremist tendency In This Very like all or nothing and just more like General level of intensity. So I'm gonna do yoga, I'm like do yoga all out or I'm gonna like 🟠🟠heal all of my traumas from this thing🟠🟠 and then that showing a way of navigating the world that it sounds like so much of this. This stuff that you are transitioning to now and focusing on posture and focusing on the sequence of your bone stacking and postural learning and different strengthening. And

March 16, 2021: Annie publishes the 123rd episode of her podcast: 123. Communication is integration with Dr. Michael Lennox

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➡️ Annie Altman (35:51): 🟡And and then how even two like saying this out loud? It that there must be some healing to in. I bet there could also be harmed for people depending that in an environment with a trusted therapist, that, that could be really healing in terms of like what you said with your work of bringing the trigger up to the surface to say, Or even just to acknowledge the trigger of. 🟠🟠Hey, I'm noticing that you're pausing a lot with all the words before Mother.🟠🟠

Source: https://x.com/anniealtman108/status/1387563710789558272

May 4, 2021 -- Annie publishes Yogaish Flowish Rinseish on her YouTube channel.

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3:02 -- Black medical tape on Annie's left ankle and foot is visible:
3:57 -- "[Describing a yoga pose] Focus on two right angles. So rather than like, dumping in and falling forward, can you find the alignment with your hips facing the same direction, and can you engage your whole core? Your {unintelligible} through all the things? And then you're in a weird pose, so let's breathe, and let's bring the arms back in. And by 'let's' I mean -- it's me, here, all alone, doing yoga, 'Hey phone.'"
4:34 -- Another different view of the medical tape on Annie's left ankle and foot:

May 4, 2021: Annie publishes the 125th episode of her podcast: 125. The Community Offering with Brynn Kerin #3

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➡️ Annie Altman (34:00): Yeah I'm really here too. About about the stuff with Like that you're you're the first person I've gone to do coaching with and the flower community and also getting to classes with you and and one of many reasons it means a lot to get to have you on the podcast. The third time in particularly as opening up for this sea is how much you for your word of Avatar? You were one of those avatars for me of It being okay of community safe and okay. And also being someone who Has the space like you said, in the openness for? 🔴🔴🔴My own fumbling and figuring out. Okay. Well, is this my Intuition or is this my trauma response and what is my truth here?🔴🔴🔴 And and how do I sit with it and how do I because of everyone's process too like you shared being Individual to that person and it's a goofy Paradox. Again of like we're all doing the same thing like we're all learning to trust and to love and one feels like and all it feels totally different to each person and how they describe it as totally different. 🔴🔴🔴Their process of you know do you fight flight? Freeze Fawn or what combination of them🔴🔴🔴 and how and how does it come up when when you're met with that and it this is making me think too of how much like the The Deep fear people have of being happy and I really feel like to project my experience and experiences I've heard from people of happy phobia being a very real thing and this is how
➡️ Annie Altman (1:14:16): I don't even know. 🟡One of one of the family is our first Community. The family were born into the, the people who raise us is our first It's our first model of community and we'll Freud set a lot of fuck shit for it.🟡 🟡Also said, a lot of really that are really accurate that come up of like we talked about the beginning of this. Where we we seek out that same pattern that same thing because that's what we know to be true.🟡 That's what we know exists. That's what feels safe because because it's been there and then the Paradox, where The part of the 100th monkey Effect, 2, where we do part of community is homogenizing or seeing other people do it like you go to a dance party and people are dancing and you feel that buzz and you start dancing more that there is some level of that. Well also this box at the same time of Thank you. Practicing. Yoga in a community is a helpful example of this of, you're on your own mat. In your own body, doing your own practice. And so you're like, picking up on The Vibes, the feeling, the just the being next to someone else who's moving and also, you are your own your own individual mover and then to go back 🟠🟠to families that for those of us who come from upbringing where that wasn't encouraged, where that was squashed, where like you said, being that monkey, being the black sheep, so many labels of The Who says, hey let's talk about this and has the overwhelming response of know and your cycle for saying this and there's something wrong for seeing things this way🟠🟠 that yeah, it's so much then is Going into other places, expecting that same thing to happen and feeling like to again, go to the part of, you know, your waiting for the other shoe to draw off your, what is the string attached to this person? Can't possibly actually care about my well-being. What it? What is this? And
➡️ Annie Altman (1:20:24): That's fun and funny to hear from you. And you're welcome and my guests because of you and because of humans is that you're way harder on yourself than other people. And it's the fun and funny part is getting to hear that from you when again like I'm I'm reflecting something that I get to see modeled from you and get to learn with you and farming and regulating, and Soothing of like, oh yes, this is a circle. This is a The community and what we do, have people getting to voice out loud and getting to hear that. We're all assholes to ourselves on some level in our head. More than people want to talk about. I feel like and people are, and by no means, is it like no one's talking about this. Plenty people are talking about it, and also, As someone who is talking about and learning through vulnerability with that. It's a really vulnerable thing to share and all. So it's Because we yeah it we can't really know. We can't really know it that. And also probably because maybe because we're all doing it. 🟡So like subconsciously and all. So it's it's become so much of what the pattern is that. We don't It can be hard to even fully realize because I do you were saying that I was yeah that same thing where I know if it like you would in no situation be like 🔴🔴🔴Annie you have this long-standing childhood trauma that you're working to resolve🔴🔴🔴 all these different things and this one example came with a date that you went on and it happens. So there you go. There was one time. I re pattern and learned it and like now you better know like you wouldn't ever know say that to me on say that to someone and I totally do that to me. Yeah. Where I'm like, Any, how could you made the same thing three times now? Like,🟡
➡️ Annie Altman (1:33:06): thank you for sharing so vulnerably about. Stuff with, with your relatives. I feel like again, this is something that A lot of people can relate to in different ways and that is shifting on the whole Community scale of people, talking about more openly and all. So on a Each individual. It is no easy task to talk about openly. Talk about it all and to talk about on a public like to talk about publicly like especially just something that is that is out there and yeah, which to me is a part of all the reason that it's important to for people to have again that modeling that Things can get complicated, 🟡things can get challenging that there's people who talk to their families every day. And there's people who Don't speak with them at all. I call my blood relatives relatives. And I call my chosen family family, very specifically and very intentionally with I love that with language of it.🟡 And yeah, to to It. Well okay. I also like to share that not only doesn't make sense that and of course it's going to happen as many times as it takes in the pattern. It's also we beautiful fucking thing. It is a gift and it is truly beautiful to desire. that growth for someone else and to To keep having the hope and the belief and the space that maybe they can change and that they can surprise you and what got me. So, when the tears was, you talking about that choosing yourself and especially when it is someone that you share blood with and then there's all the layers of Of self gaslighting and questioning to say. All but it's your mom but it's your dad but it's your brother there. But but what about what about this thing and how to really To be okay with that. And to think on or to, to model from the AA of, I have no advice for you and all I can do is share my own experiences and offer strength and hope and
Speaker 1 (1:35:24): Yeah,
➡️ Annie Altman (1:35:24): that's that's all we've got. And I know for for my experience with estrangement that one of the biggest challenges has been that it feels good and really bad that it feels good to hold boundaries and that Wanting to still go through some story of like, okay. Well, you did Steps A through Z. But what about? What about double A did you try that one? Will what if what if you did this form of family therapy or this thing or what? If you wrote it out in this format or this, whatever. And I know means scripture for you. Or for anyone listening that estrangement is always the option. And also, in my experience it was and it is and 🟠🟠I hadn't spoken with my blood relatives in a year. and it has been one of the most challenging and one of I could I could go into all sorts of things that could have or would have happened. It has been one of the most necessary decisions.🟠🟠 yeah, I have made will also being so so hard because it's so, We need Community. We need people and And all. So, all of the different fears of them will. What is that? You know, it is all for me and it's all me taking accountability. So, what am I doing wrong? What it like, am I not? How am I not worthy of showing up to these other communities or all of those sorts of questioning of? Well, there must be something wrong with me. Then, let me take on the blame for this. And so, you know, how could I not want to talk to these people that going into some story of them? What that means about me? And yeah, I can only imagine in your experience and, and how again there's like these same flavors and it's so individual with each Dynamic. And then again, where it's blood, relatives, there is Here's the desire for that change in growth. And then, of course, there's that desire for closeness and that one. Has been and continues to be a really important reminder in my grieving of those relationships that, 🟡of course, who doesn't want to be close to their mom, their dad, their siblings.🟡 Their, if you ask a person, they're gonna say that's their preference. And
Speaker 1 (1:37:45): yeah,
➡️ Annie Altman (1:37:46): Sitting with that. Well, at the same time of sitting with like you said, so succinctly of okay, well, if if this person, if this community to to podcast it back, a little here of again, for my own vulnerability and for the Community is asking me to choose between myself and the community. That is one of the, the barometers, the templates. The The flags that I look for that. I say this feels no good. This doesn't feel supportive. This phuc. Yea Annie. That is so clear and true. Yeah, well, thank you for clarifying. It so much with with that first community example, where because I can look at my At no point in my, in the community, I've interacted with you in, have there ever been a semblance of you asking me to choose between the two of us or choose between the community and myself? And that is to me such a marker of safety and of it. Yeah, there are no real safe. Space is all of it being

June 7, 2021: Annie publishes "An Open Letter To The EMDR Trauma Therapist Who Fired Me For Doing Sex Work" on her blog. [AA21c]

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It seems Annie was trying to use EMDR to heal her PTSD, which, as she claims, resulted from having flashbacks to and stronger memories the abuse, e.g. sexual abuse from Sam, that she was subjected to during her childhood.
It seems her therapist rejected her as a client on the basis of her position as a sex worker.

July 2021: Sam purchases a $43 million estate in Kailua-Kona, on the Big Island of Hawaii [BI23a].

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From [BI23a]:
- "Altman's purchase of the Hawaii property has not been previously reported. BI linked the property to Altman by examining business and real-estate filings showing the land was owned by an LLC managed by Jennifer Serralta, whose name appears as a manager on paperwork for other businesses known to be owned by Altman. Serralta, who previously worked in the automotive industry, describes herself on LinkedIn as the chief operating officer of a family office — presumably Altman's — and is his cousin, according to an obituary for their grandmother. Reached by phone, Serralta declined to comment."
- "In a March post on her personal blog, Serralta wrote that she stayed at a Kailua-Kona property owned by "a friend" while vacationing in Hawaii. Last year, Altman tweeted a photo of himself wakesurfing in Hawaii; the view of the Big Island in the background of the photo precisely matches the view from the Kailua-Kona compound. And in 2021, Altman registered a business, the Sam Altman Qualified Opportunity Fund, at an address adjacent to the property. (It's possible that Altman wanted to register the business to his address but made a mistake; the address he used differs from his own by just one digit and has been owned by the same person since 2007.)"
  - Note: Business Insider's statement seems accurate; see my analysis using Google Maps in [BI23a] in the References, and key excerpts from them section of this post.
  - The Tweet that Sam posted:
    - Source: https://x.com/sama/status/1512111914939154434
- "Altman has one family connection to Hawaii: His youngest sibling, Annie Altman, has lived on the islands on and off since 2017. Annie Altman, an artist and entertainer who has supported herself through in-person and virtual sex work, lives a much-different life from her brother's. Annie is teetering on financial insolvency, she told BI, after a lengthy stretch of illnesses. She has not spoken with her brother since 2021, when she refused his offer to buy her a home after learning that a lawyer would control the property, she said."
- "She had been unaware that her oldest brother owned property in Hawaii until BI asked her about it, she said."

August 3, 2021: Annie publishes the 130th episode of her podcast: 130. The Community’s Health with Michelle McGregor #3

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➡️ Annie Altman (31:11): Go ahead. I want to ask about. Have you heard the word masking before? Your masking. I feel like people mostly use that with autism and certain mental health things, and I feel I was thinking of that term when you were talking about that image of you and Nick in a room with a doctor and you are doing your best to In no way. Come off as the hysterical over emotional woman, and it made me also think about you changing your name on Dominion points is also masking of if I share this piece of my Feminine experience with my femininity of and also a purely of my body. Like you didn't shoot, you didn't choose to be born with the uterus. You didn't choose to have endometriosis. It's you're going through all of these loops and all of these things for something, your body is doing on its own. You weren't like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna choose this. And, and so then you're to me. What I'm hearing is then masking a sitting in the room wanting to like, Be your best composed to not be. Condescended and how you're talking to to receive the help that you're needing. You're like, you're you're like showing up your best of like I'm here to share about my experience. I'm gonna like Keep it as composed as I can to give you the information and all. 🟠🟠So some level of and I say this, having done this, Also, like, I did this with an orthopedist. I saw for the first time last week about my achilles🟠🟠 where it's like, needing to, it's like almost you're not going to take me seriously. Otherwise like truly, like you're going into that experience. Knowing that your experience of your body isn't being fully respected and isn't being prioritized and understood on a lot of different levels, both personally and that, in that doctor's office and also on all the levels of research that have gone into endometriosis and have gone into Women's Health and have gone in two surgeries in different options and It's just all of these bigger layers of like I remember talking to on the phone about the mouse lab that I worked in California and how recently, like, it's female, mice being used as subjects for research for preclinical stuff that could go to clinical is just being transitioned to include. Right?

August 10, 2021: Annie publishes the 131st episode of her podcast: 131. The Community Meal Distribution with Kris Pieper

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➡️ Annie Altman (23:01): I appreciate the the pause to acknowledge that and check in on that. And it's important. And also anybody being Hungry, and stressed about being hungry and ends up. Impacting, everyone. So come from a place of enormous privilege and meditative fancy College. 🟡I grew up with a lot of privilege and I have had moments since then. Not being sure about how I was going to cover food.🟡 and healthy and obviously, in very small ways comparatively and still in very privileged ways in terms of How much of my life that has been? And also the contrast having. 🟡grown up and then directly experiencing the dysregulation of. How am I going to afford feeding myself? and how fucked up is that🟡 and all the ways when There is more than there's food, being thrown out in all everywhere. Right. Like

November 18, 2021: Annie publishes the 132nd episode of her podcast: 132. The Community Family System with Orlee Klempner #3

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➡️ Annie Altman (23:39): Yeah. Well the tone and also the time the literal giving time and attention and energy. That's Right. It's important to me, it's important to the overall Community system. What you have to share and what you care about and wanting me. And That brings. what you were bringing up about neglect and you were going around the words of fragmentation and splintering off and curious to before, or maybe sort of, as Going into the next part about. How? applied now that we have the groundwork of it, I'd love to hear about. More about that background. Test. 🟡Generally, or in your experience, working with your different parts about going back to a first memory. Going back to a repeated memory focusing through the patterns to say. Where when did this part not get attention like you were bringing up.🟡
➡️ Annie Altman (38:07): yes, I'd like to go more into that and also I appreciate you sharing specific examples again and A lot of. Hearing in that from your experience. 🟡And feeling from my own is the voice of Shame and shame coming up to in most people's experience, be parading a voice of one of their parents. Or some adult when they were little that.🟡 Is the feeling about the feeling. When you have the feeling like you gave the example as a child that you have, the full response to reality, your emotional response makes sense for 🟡what is happening especially as a child who doesn't have the tools to do things to physically protect and doesn't experience and all these other things that then to have that experience of Shame of being told in some capacity that expressing yourself in that way is wrong.🟡 Is such a Human theme that then sticks with us that we play out. Like, you were bringing up to in our other relationships of Being. still like you were saying of Still there. Still wants to be heard or still. Feeling that Shame about not getting to be heard in the past. And so, I'm glad you brought up that. is I feel like that can be the most challenging part to sit with is is the pain and then being honest about whatever the emotion is and saying that it Knowing that it is, okay, whatever it is and being real. How it felt to. Have it not be heard. And the other thing I want to touch on too and then connect this to experience as you've had with teaching yoga and meditation. Advertising. Your own body different. Different things throughout. Throughout your lifetime. Is. so, I find often in spiritual communities, and in my own experience of my own spirituality and emotional health, and all of it to I find this tendency of spiritual passing where people. where I can get so focused on being present and being in the now that I, I can download. 🔴🔴🔴Of feeling the feeling of whatever age of Annie is seeking attention.🔴🔴🔴 And is part of the present and that it is here in the present to teach something and I'm really glad to hear and I'm curious how ifs and just generally the, the overall systems Focus. Influences, your guiding. and your own yoga meditation practices because I know for me it's been hugely influential of Allowing. Allowing period, all of it. What is currently happening? 🟠🟠The past feelings and experiences memories. That might be coming up the shame, or judgments that may be coming up.🟠🟠 The like you were saying the layering of realizing, 🟠🟠oh, this was this parent or this? Caregiver's voice,🟠🟠 or this was this moment of neglect or being shamed. going through it and like, our first podcast title of alignment is space and forgiveness.
➡️ Annie Altman (49:36): sense. Yes, absolutely. And to your point about The. The make child making meaning from what's Happening and caring to understand. Into their caregiver and all of those things. A lot of times what is happening is that the caregiver is experiencing their own, internal reactions, and responses to their internal parties, which then the child is taking personally and learning how to mimic that behavior of how to manage the community of your own internal family system. and to go to the car again, and come in with with that I, I found I'd be curious how this feels for you, too of Well, I was saying earlier about 🟡all the parts have room in the car. They're and there's also parts that will attempt to ride along in the car that are not my part that are someone else's part right and there. Yep, giving that voice and A lot of the being real that reality like you were saying about to actually coming up right now in the present and what is seeking attention is. Discerning. Okay. Well, is this my part or is this someone else's part? And if this is my part, how can I like you were saying give this full And give it the floor and if this is not, if this is someone else's part, how can I compassionately say? Get the fuck out of the car?🟡
Speaker 1 (51:21): Well and I might work has been
➡️ Annie Altman (51:23): 🟡superego and and some of that stuff with I have and 🔴🔴🔴EMDR🔴🔴🔴 and saying, leave get out go away and yeah.🟡
Speaker 1 (51:34): yeah, I think
➡️ Annie Altman (51:35): for you how you 🟠🟠how you discern is this my part Or is this? someone else🟠🟠 I asked and then,
Speaker 1 (51:46): I asked the part, you know, How much is this is yours? How much does this is is my parent and and just by, you know, letting it show you. You might have a memory come up of your parent or whoever it is. saying, the thing that this part says to you all the time, You know. Or maybe. Express as somehow. externally that now you actually say the thing that your parents were saying to you, you know, oftentimes People treat their children because of how they were treated, right? So their part, Are responding to the child. It's sorry. I mean Rewind. A parents. Parks. That had once. Were developed and not healed. Like, say this parent has never done this work. They have parts that were wounded by their parents, right? And they built protective parts around that. It is those parts. That is then responding to their child.
➡️ Annie Altman (53:12): Absolutely. 🔴🔴🔴It can be. Outrageous to trace back through patterns and see a parent.🔴🔴🔴
Speaker 1 (53:19): Oh yeah.
➡️ Annie Altman (53:23): 🟡Start to See. Zoom out from the system, overall of your biological family of origin and then all your internal family. of Hearts, I'm really giving them all🟡
➡️ Annie Altman (56:03): Absolutely, to me there is a pattern there. Are connection between. where it's coming from, and Part of the whole Community system to trace through. and, even sit with like you were saying, I can't compare well with the part that can compare can look through what's write the history powder and and again, really to your Of the pain and being with. These. Deaths. Sex money body dysmorphia disordered eating these things that Are collectively 🟡taught to shame and not talk about. And yeah. Taught and to talk about it openly when it feels good and safe to you.🟡

December 1, 2021: Annie publishes the 133rd episode of her podcast: 133. The Community Co-Regulation with Lindsey Lockett

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➡️ Annie Altman (23:10): we're doing, then we're doing the podcast quote correctly. Yeah. I already having a realization and I'm already having a realization where totally I feel you too. On that people pleasing 🔴🔴🔴classic trauma, response and coping and Dysregulated central nervous system🔴🔴🔴 that then is like, I must regulate, I must, I must take accountability or self-flagellate. Oh, like some, some sort of something of Like it's not okay for me to be here. Safe or whatever is going on, but it is not
Speaker 1 (23:41): just a safe person Annie. It's totally okay for me to be here.
➡️ Annie Altman (23:47): Thank you. I'm glad that you feel safe and I feel very safe to and I really do appreciate you going into so many different layers of all the things that was one of many reasons I was so stoked to get a podcast with you is that you're so open about it and you've experimented with so many things and been open to really dive in to all of these different. Places rather than kind of just sticking one like toe into this thing or one toe into that thing. And on the other side, been okay to get out of the metaphorical water. So like that documentary story is amazing and that you watched it twice. In one day. I love that of like just, The. I don't know what that is exactly, 🟡because there's some level of your central nervous system. In my experience has to be regulated to some degree to be open-minded enough to shift your perspective or like something has to be calm enough to then watch the thing and say okay I can I can reflect on this differently it's like comedy part of why I love stand-up. Is when you're laughing, you're more open, you're more open-minded. So literally🟡
➡️ Annie Altman (56:35): how it feels in my experience. And using the words that That feel, right? And I also want to touch on because it's so valuable. You brought up the Vibrational alignment and all the patterns that happen as Who falls into or joins into what communities and how. And 🔴🔴🔴One of the many really scary things to me. And sad things about disregulated nervous systems is how easy they are to manipulate and how you can start to see these patterns of an in so many different ways. That consciously and not consciously, that people. With dysregulated nervous systems, it's often that is always connected to some form of trauma and abuse. That has been dysregulated. It to not know what safety is are then, so easily sucked into other things that perpetuate that belief and continue to Feed that cycle like you were saying of negative feedback loops that just strengthen that binary even more of their right and there's a wrong.🔴🔴🔴 And yeah I I'm glad you brought up veganism too and I did not feel like you were shaming vegans and I actually related to that all so of chill out vegans That I had a very hardcore vegan face, and I went down the raw vegan Rabbit Hole played a little bit of the fruitarian game was I was in. I got into that binary hardcore and One of the things that got me out of it was recognizing the binary. So again, I love using that language to be able to step back and say, wait a minute, there's a Dogma here, there's a binary of saying this is all right and this is all wrong rather than having that more nuanced perspective to say to say what's going on and then truly to say and how does this feel and that's allowed to be just as relevant information of the like that that is also part of the quote data of what's going on? Is how am I breathing? What is my heart rate? Like how is my health? Are you bringing up all the chronic health things and I relate to that, too of What's going on here? What is what's the message?
➡️ Annie Altman (1:09:24): literally, yeah, it is it's the water all around you. One of my favorite I have a tattoo of this is water from the beach by David Foster Wallace about it being all all around us. and I want to touch on you bringing up the binary of masculine feminine and how that can be a helpful tool and the sort of goofy Paradox of Being aware of binaries and maybe using some of that language, as a way to understand more about them, or to express more of the emotions and the experience and what's going on. And yeah, just The openness to it. And I also wanted to bring up and I would be curious if you relate to this too. That 🔴🔴🔴in my experience with binaries and Dogma. A lot of it comes again from like you're saying this binary, traumatized nervous system that and I really appreciate and I love you bringing up the that is about life or death that it's the ultimate binary that then we are playing out in other places🔴🔴🔴 that with veganism for example, for me The appeal of it was this this feeling of of life in a way. I guess of that binary of like I have I have found quote, the answer and that other things, too. And I've heard that same thing. Exactly with other people, too. And you bringing up the 🔴🔴🔴it being okay with your central nervous system to not know, or to not know right now or to have more things rather than being in such intense fight flight, freeze, fawn response mode,🔴🔴🔴 that anything that seems like an answer or a solution or a leaf to that is, is so appealing as a remedy.

In late 2021, Sam reaches out to Annie with "seemingly kind words" [AA23m] 1 year after full contact (or, equivalently, 1.5 years after the two family therapy sessions) [AA24k]. Annie writes, "We spoke on the phone three times, and through these conversations I began to suspect the offer was another attempt at control. It seemed I would never have direct ownership of the house. Also, given the nature of my PTSD flashbacks, the house felt like an unsafe place to actually heal my mind and body." [AA23m] Thus, Annie refuses Sam's offer.

Also (as it seems to me), during these phone calls, Annie tells Sam that she is doing sex work, even though she doesn't want to (i.e. she is doing so out of desperation, to survive, while burdened with various illnesses that prevent her from doing a normal job.) Sam responds: "Good." [BB24d]. (Though "A person close to Sam says that Sam remembers the conversation differently." [BB24d].)

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Annie has stated: "There were other strings attached they made it feel like an unsafe place to actually heal from the experiences I had with him." [AA23g] "The offer was after a year and half no contact {with Sam}, and {I} had started speaking up {about Sam, and his abuse/misconduct} online. I had already started survival sex work. The offer was for the house to be connected with a lawyer, and the last time I had a Sam-lawyer connection I didn’t get to see my Dad’s will for a year." [AA23h]
From [BB24d]:
- Ellen Huet: "It's not a clean cut situation. In twenty twenty two, Sam offered to buy Annie a house, but she says it wasn't going to be in her name, and the conditions made her uncomfortable."
- Annie Altman: "It became clear to me that it was not an offer for my house. It was an offer for a house of Sam's - or a lawyer of his - that I would be allowed to live in."

On November 13, 2021, Annie makes 3 posts (Tweets) to X (Twitter) -- [AA21a] and [AA21b] -- where she publicly states that she "experienced sexual, physical, emotional, verbal, financial, and technological abuse from my biological siblings, mostly Sam Altman and some from Jack Altman".

Annie also states: "I feel strongly that others have also been abused by these perpetrators {i.e. her biological siblings (brothers) Sam, Jack, and Max}."

Source: https://x.com/anniealtman108/status/1459696376133001218

Note: the image above -- where Annie's 3 Tweets have 252, 576, and 235 likes, respectively -- is a screenshot that I took in January 2025.

Per the Tweet shown below, it seems that, prior to early October 2023, Annie's 3 Tweets above had zero likes, retweets, or comments from other accounts (the single comment is just a reply from Annie herself.)

Source: https://x.com/RemmeltE/status/1709974603722822023

As noted at the beginning of this post, this post is the 7th post in a series of 11 posts that are meant to be read in order.

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