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This is an experiment in short-form content on LW2.0. I'll be using the comment section of this post as a repository of short, sometimes-half-baked posts that either:
don't feel ready to be written up as a full post
I think the process of writing them up might make them worse (i.e. longer than they need to be)
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I still want to make a really satisfying "fuck yeah" button on LessWrong comments that feels really good to press when I'm like "yeah, go team!" but doesn't actually mean I want to reward the comment in our longterm truthtracking or norm-tracking algorithms.
I think this would seriously help with weird sociokarma cascades.
Ah, I imagine a third set of voting buttons, with large colorful buttons "yay, ingroup!!!" and "fuck outgroup!!!", with the following functionality:
in your personal settings,you can replace the words "ingroup" and "outgroup" by a custom text
only the votes that agree with you are displayed; for example if there are 5 "yay" votes and 7 "boo" votes, if you voted "yay", you will only see "5 people voted yay on this comment" (not the total -2)
the yay/boo votes have no impact on karma
if you make a yay/boo vote, the other two sets of voting buttons are disabled f... (read more)
What longterm truthtracking or norm-tracking algorithms are you talking about? Can you give a few examples of sociokarma cascades that you think will improved by this complexity? Would adding agree/disagree to top-level posts be sufficient (oh, wait, you're talking about comments. How does agree/disagree not solve this?)
More fundamentally, why do you care about karma, aside from a very noisy short-term input into whether a post or comment is worth thinking about?
Now if you say "do away with strong votes, and limit karma-based vote multiples to 2x", I'm fully onboard.
5Raemon
It needs to be less effort than upvoting to accomplish the thing I want.
This is an experiment in short-form content on LW2.0. I'll be using the comment section of this post as a repository of short, sometimes-half-baked posts that either:
I ask people not to create top-level comments here, but feel free to reply to comments like you would a FB post.