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Blocking users

by PhilGoetz
8th Feb 2011
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Blocking users
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5ata
4Alicorn
5XiXiDu
6Vladimir_Nesov
8Vladimir_Nesov
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6JoshuaZ
6false_vacuum
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[-]ata15y90

But who can block a user

List of sysops

who decides who can block a user

List of "bureaucrats"

what are users blocked for

It appears that all blocked users so far have been spambots.

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[-][anonymous]15y10

Interesting. Do all admins have the ability to promote articles, too?

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[-]ata15y50

Adminship on the wiki and on lesswrong.com are separate (they run on different software, with different user databases).

Here are the lesswrong.com moderators, though I think their powers are limited to editing posts and such. [Edit: that was incorrect, see Alicorn's reply.] Promoting posts is done by people labeled Editors (shown next to their karma score on their user pages), currently Eliezer, Robin Hanson, and wmoore. (I'm not sure if any of them actually do any editing/promoting other than Eliezer.)

And I don't think the LW software supports completely blocking a user, currently.

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[-]Alicorn15y40

Moderators can't edit others' posts, we can just ban them.

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[-]XiXiDu15y50

Can mods see who voted on a post or comment?

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov15y60

No.

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov15y80

This user posted spam. I banned 4 such users today that posted similar spam. Admins can ban users on the wiki, usually that's just me. I'm not aware of any case where a user that's not a spambot was banned on the wiki.

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[-]gwern15y00

Is there anything wrong with adopting a standard like 'if it would get you banned on Wikipedia, it gets you banned here'?

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[-]JoshuaZ15y60

Is there anything wrong with adopting a standard like 'if it would get you banned on Wikipedia, it gets you banned here'?

Wikipedia has a lot of policies we wouldn't like. Neutral point of view would be the most obvious of them.

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[-]false_vacuum15y60

Do we even need to explicitly adopt such a standard at this point?

Wikipedia has its problems. I wouldn't be too eager to ape it in any detail.

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[-]gwern15y00

Apparently we do given the existence of this Discussion post. Wikipedia's problems do not stem from its blocking policies but from subtler issues.

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[-]false_vacuum15y30

Didn't mean to imply that Wikipedia's blocking policies constitute a problem. Just that all we need here is the standard 'accounts that post spam will be blocked'. Which seems utterly uncontroversial, and doesn't even need to be made explicit.

Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

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[-]JoshuaZ15y20

Wikipedia's problems stem from a variety of issues, including seriously haphazard ways of determining what results in banning for anything other than absolutely cut and dried stuff. Wikipedia has a lot of different problems. The project succeeds primarily because the problems exist around the edge cases and the vast majority of editing never runs into them.

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I noticed this recent Wiki edit:

http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/User:AllisonGibbons

which says:

This user is currently blocked. The latest block log entry is provided below for reference:

  • 13:19, 8 February 2011 Vladimir Nesov (Talk | contribs) blocked AllisonGibbons (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled, autoblock disabled) ‎
Odds are, it's a spambot.  But who can block a user, who decides who can block a user, what are users blocked for, and what recourse does a blocked user have?