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Six years ago we introduced Shortform (later renamed Quick Takes) to LessWrong. Here's a meme-format thing we made at the time. How do people reckon it's gone? h/t @Raemon
What is the point of scholarship , steps 3 and 5? If the point of 3 is to find the flaws in a seemingly attractive theory, that's very commendable, but it's not necessary to do the work yourself ... you can go to a forum populated by experts , and ask for comments.
There's also an issue where ideas that don't appear defensible at first glance can get pruned prematurely. (Just because you can't see how it could work...) Indeterminism, libertarian free will and moral realism are prominent examples here.
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And what forum is that? The point of Richard Ngo's comment is that LW doesn't do steps 3 and 5 either,[1] not frequently and reliably enough to be sufficient. And sadly, I'm not aware of any other forums that do this either. Particularly because the kinds of questions LW is interested in (rationality, AI, general sociological speculation) are not ones where established experts can directly point to existing literature that answers those questions clearly and unequivocally. Take something like Raemon's attempts to do feedbackloop-first rationality as a representative example.
Doing steps 3 and 5 reliably seems to basically require a commitment similar to that of a full-time job.[2] And it requires a tremendous amount of already-existing expertise, and a fair bit of research taste, and a commitment to norms and principles of epistemic rationality, etc. All without pay and without the allure of increased reputation and publications on your CV that working in regular academia gives you.
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Not even in comments
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As a necessary, but surely not sufficient, condition
Particularly because the kinds of questions LW is interested in (rationality, AI, general sociological speculation) are not ones where established experts can directly point to existing literature that answers those questions clearly and unequivocally
I was taking that for granted that you are unlikely to get definitive answers, and the exercise was more about avoiding ... (read more)