Completely agree with your observations, and I say this as someone who (a) grew up with family singing, campfire singing (b) had pretty extensive choral training; (c) nevertheless later participated in and led community singing groups built on the idea that it's totally, absolutely fine to sing "badly"; (d) for many years hosted a successful wassailing party at which most people were not Christian and not familiar with caroling, yet happily and credibly belted out the Christmas carols they had just learned, on the porches of surprised neighbors; (e) is now a folkie very active in the pub singing tradition (f) with an armchair interest in ethnomusicology, oral tradition, and the neurobiosociology of community singing.
SO... a few thoughts:
You are absolutely right that the most important factor is giving people permission to sing, that everyone has the right to sing, your voice doesn't have to be good, you don't have to be in tune, and in fact it will be fine. If there are professional musicians present it can be important to explain to them what is going on, why they should be happy to hear bad singers sing, and how they can help by singing the melody loudly, and not wincing.
You may find helpful resources at https://singout.org/communitysings/, look up Pete Seeger's Tone Deaf Choir (historical), Matt Watroba's Community Sings (current, I think). They were brilliant at getting big crowds of non-singers to sing (and surprise themselves with how good they sound).
I'd be happy to exchange notes on repertoire. I am not sure what themes exactly suit the Rationalist Solstice scene, but I know what worked well for my motley wassailing crew and my community singing group.
There are characteristics of songs from oral tradition that support/encourage everyone to sing, which are common in older traditional songs, religious/church songs, childrens/camp songs. Yes, they arose from contexts where the participants could not read, but this is irrelevant. You do not want people reading words off of a sheet of paper or their phone. You want them to be present to the room and just sing. You want it to be easy to sing in the pitch dark with a candle in one hand and a glass of grog in the other. So the same rules apply.
Predictability. The tune is repetitive (no modulations, bridges, etc), and the lyrics have a formulaic pattern. A good example: "Where have all the flowers gone?". If someone has never heard the song, they have to stop singing and listen to hear the one word that is new in each verse; but then they can predict how the entire next verse will go, and can sing along to the whole verse as well as the chorus. And that song is not silly, and not a bad candidate.
Repetition. Songs with a chorus, as noted, you can sing the chorus once at the outset, and then people can sing it every time it repeats. Pro tip: sing every verse, and repeat the chorus after every verse. Stage folk performers will skip verses and only sometimes sing the chorus to avoid boring the audience; but it's not boring when there is no audience and everyone is singing. But choruses aren't the only form of this. Some songs have call and response where you repeat each line (or there's a formula for the response to the called line). Some have a refrain in which the last line or two of each verse is sung again. Look for songs with these features.
Familiarity. Obvious one. If a lot of people recognize a song it helps, even if they just hum the tune. A good example of this might be Silent Night. In traditional music, including church hymnals and pub ballads, tunes are heavily re-used. The same tunes are re-used for many different sets of lyrics, so you can leverage that everyone already knows the tune. Parodies (writing new songs to well known tunes) work well for this reason.
Physicality. Clapping, stomping, snapping, whatever, lets people participate even if they don't know the words or tune -- and surprisingly lowers inhibitions for singing.
For totally novel songs I think the best you can do is have an optional pre-run for people who want to learn them, use the same ones year after year, and make it ok to just listen and enjoy the ones you don't know. People pick up songs up with remarkable ease. They will accidentally find they are singing it next time. In this context, story songs are the easiest for people to remember; our brains are wired for stories. For example 'Good King Wenceslas' was the favorite most belted out at my Wassail, even though there are no choruses or refrains.
Since you are taking a long term view on this: wanna co-org a workshop on "singing for people who can't sing" at LessOnline next year?
One thing to consider is a strategy used in Jewish singing contexts (which I see relatively rarely done in other contexts -- but maybe it's super common and I just don't know the word to describe it!) Before singing the first verse or the chorus, you do a wordless verse where you're just using nonsense syllables like "lai-dai-lai" or "yai-dah-dai-dai" that matches the song. This enables folks to pre-load the music before having to learn the words, and gives implicit social permission to, if you forget the words, to just do nonsense syllables that match the words. (A common problem if it's a Hebrew text you're unfamiliar with and you fall behind in reading it!)
(These are sometimes called niggunim, from the Hebrew for "tune" or "melody" for those wanting to google; for what should be fairly obvious reasons about a false cognate, I didn't lead with that vocabulary term)
So for example, for The Circle, you'd start with something:
"Yah dai dai dai daiiii?
Dai dai, daaaai dah daaaai.
Yah dai dai dai daiiii?
Dai dai, daaaai dah daaaai.
Yah dai dai dai daiiii
Lah dah dai lai lai
Bah dah baiiih bah bah
Bah da bah baii bah
Bah da baiiii da baiii
Dai dai, daaaai dah daaaai."
To presage the beat of verses like:
"So will we bring our families in,
Circle, grow and grow.
those whom Nature made our kin?
Circle, grow and grow.
Countless likenesses we find,
by our common blood bestowed.
What a debt of care is owed;
what a blesséd tie that binds!
Circle, circle, grow and grow."
(The Circle is a little tricky in that the first verse starts slightly different, but trust me, this social technology extends to that use case as well, it's not uncommon to have that in Jewish songs)
Did you consider planting strong-voiced song-leaders in evenly-spaced locations among the crowd? This comes so prominently to mind as the one obvious solution remedy that I'm wondering where I'm going wrong, like it's clearly not possible for some reason or etc. But yeah that sound of someone near me singing, in my experience is the key to granting "permission" for me to sing
Yeah it's definitely one of the obvious things to do. I have not tried hard to do it because it's just kind of logistically difficult. I'll take this moment to think through why it feels hard. Some thoughts:
Looking at that, some ideas do come to mind for how to deal with that, but, it's a more expensive option than a lot of other options.
there's a cluster of advice I get from folksinger people that... seems totally "correct", but, feels... insufficiently ambitious or something.
The advice includes things like "try to have people come in singing on the chorus, and not worry so much about the verses". Or "teach people the song beforehand" and "hold practice singalongs before the event or send out music so people can learn it", or "teach people music."
My guess is that the problem is if you're getting advice from people who are in communities where it's uncommon to get large groups of people we're singing is not central to their identity unfamiliar songs. So they don't have a very relevant advice! Instead I would look for material aimed at religious leaders, camp counselors, and teachers. (But I have no idea if there is good advice out there, or if this is one of the many categories where the people who are good at it have not passed on their wisdom, and in many cases don't even realize there could add it.)
I think this doesn't feel like quite the right classifier. I do think the people giving said advice have worked with noncentral singers, and, like, I do meanwhile think most of the advice is good, just, pointed at a less important part of the problem.
I think the folk-singer style advice has mapped roughly to what I'd expect from camp counselors.
Some advice from more of a religious-tradition have been:
I was resistant to #2 for awhile because my association of this was catholic mass where a pipe organ plays the melody in a way that feels... kinda boring/lame to me? But, recently, while experimenting with the Suno music AI make covers of Solstice songs, I noticed it inserting melodies that felt like a good mix of "musically interesting" and "probably helpful", and I've felt better about it.
try to have people come in singing on the chorus, and not worry so much about the verses
I think this is just massively obsolete, and dates back to people singing along without being able to read lyrics. Either because you didn't have printing, or people weren't (sufficiently) literate.
(Though there are also communities that intentionally don't involve written words in there folk singing, such as pub singers, which I do think can be a nice aesthetic. If that's what you're doing, then the format where someone sings the versus solo and everyone joins in on the chorus works well.)
On the 2012 Solstice, I do expect you had more people who enjoy this kind of singing. For example, @juliawise and I are both reasonably strong singers (including being comfortable picking things up on the fly) and I think a big part of why we were excited to come down from Boston was that the event involved singing. But I don't remember what fraction of the people that would have applied to.
Yeah when I wrote the sentence you're responding to, four people specifically came to mind, and 2 of them were you/Julia specifically, and two were some other people for whom I don't think of singing as their strong suit (although I think they were still selected for enthusiasm).
It's plausible to me that like 80% of the far-away-ers were pretty singy or enthusiastic, but I think <50% of the NYC people were.
"Selected for enthusiasm" is still an important selection criteria, but, it does still point towards the main goal being "enthusiasm."
this totally tracks with my experience of solstice. people do sing along even if their signing is not great, if they understand the goal is having fun singing together and not signing correctly
Yeah, this is hard, and important to making an event like this fun!
A few random thoughts:
In leadership training a warm-up exercise was "I'll sing this [nonsense tune with lyrics on the whiteboard, similar to singing Game of Thrones tune, but people don't know the melody already] as loud as I can. Your goal as a group is to be louder than one of me." The presenter was obviously a loud guy, but it normalized everyone shouting as he would do it first and we'd just aim to match in a way that felt normal even in the corporate office setting. I've ran this a few times even with quite strong cultural gaps and nors against me, and it worked every time.
This reminds me of Bring the Light which I assume was a warm up song with simple lyrics, still good meaning and fun to do (remotely at least! :) ). More like that!
Music in clubs is repetitive, and at least Serbian Turbo-Folk has very predictable rhymes - from one line's content and ending you can guess the likely next line, allowing you to sing along to a song you never heard before!
I assume other cultures have songs like our Bećarac which have one person sing a line, everyone repeats, then they sing another line (usually a subversion of expectations theoug a pun or ending the line without a rhyming word because the rhyming word would have been naughty) and everyone repeats (with laughter). These can be also made on the spot alongside a canon of existing ones and are quite fun - kind of rap battles and disses of old, but much easier to craft.
Anyhow, best of luck, shame I'll miss it, but I'll catch it one year!
* by which I mean "it works pretty okay for songs of up-to-medium-high difficulty, see below"
When I seek out advice about making people more singalongable, there's a cluster of advice I get from folksinger people that... seems totally "correct", but, feels... insufficiently ambitious or something.
The advice includes things like "try to have people come in singing on the chorus, and not worry so much about the verses". Or "teach people the song beforehand" and "hold practice singalongs before the event or send out music so people can learn it", or "teach people music."
This... totally makes sense as advice, and I do do it. But the way people bring it up feels a bit alien to me, like it's clearly intervening on the wrong level. It's optimizing a thing that has a lower overall effect size than another variable that I've seen accomplish way more singalongability way harder.
The other variable is:
"Actually ensure people feel in their bones that singing along is fine/great even if they're bad at singing, even if they don't know the tune."
And, alas, this mostly isn't accomplished by trying to tell people "you can sing along guys, for real! It's fine! Don't feel awkward!"
Instead it just sort of depends on a critical mass of people all believing it at once, and taking it for granted, in a setting that makes it feel like a straightforwardly true part of social reality. Like, you'd be the weirdo if you didn't believe this.
In the 2012 Living Room Solstice, there were 50 people in the living room. I had invited a professional musician friend to lead a couple songs that he had wrote. Normally when he performs those songs, he carefully warms the audience up, starts the song kinda quiet but ramps up to the chorus and then signals people to sing along and the people slowly join in.
He had practiced that songleading approach beforehand for the 2012 Winter Solstice.
It got to be his turn. He started the song.
Immediately, 50 people started singing along at full volume and enthusiasm, zero hesitation, for a song they had never heard before.
I was there. It worked. It sounded okay. Obviously some people sang some stuff wrong and AFAICT nobody cared.
It's worked fine for decades at my family's Christmas Eve party, where new friends or neighbors will come in, and have a brief moment of "wait, but I don't know the words!" and we're like "yeah whatever doesn't matter" and then they go "...okay?" and then it works and they have a great time and end the night saying "wow, I didn't know Christmas could be so awesome. You guys have, like, the sort of Christmas they make Hollywood movies about, I didn't know that was real."
It notably works significantly less well at an auditorium.
It might not work in a living room, if there isn't some critical mass of people who believe in it, and you don't make sure to start the evening off with songs that are silly enough that you can't really feel self-conscious about it. (I started 2012 Solstice off with everyone singing the "Game of Thrones" theme song, a las "daaah duh da da daaah duh da da daaah duh da da daaah duh da da daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah")
I think it particularly doesn't work in an auditorium for two reasons:
One, it just feels too fancy. You aren't in a living room. You feel like you're at a show, there are performers, the performers are skilled, it feels more palpable that there was something to ruin.
Two, 50 people in a living are naturally going to have a very high density, and the ceiling is low, and all the sound is compressed together so it's very obvious you're not going in on this alone. You can all clearly hear the few people who are loudly confidently singing the correct tune, which helps a lot.
In the auditorium, you're spread out – you're not smushed up against your friends on a couch. And if you're in a section of the audience where not as many people are trying to sing, it sounds a bit lame, you try singing, you sound lame, the people around you sound lame, you maybe try to push through because the Solstice Organizers are trying to be really encouraging and you want to support the intended vibe, but it's pushing uphill.
When you're 500 people, you do kinda need to be in an auditorium. There are degrees of freedom of how fancy an auditorium but most options for seating 500 people feel intrinsically formal.
I'm running Solstice this year, and thinking about how to deal with this. I'll be doing the various sorts of advice the folk songleaders say, but, I think the most important question is "can we solve the Auditorium Vibe?"
People don't believe me about this. Folk singers who are used to leading crowd singalongs don't believe me about this (they're the ones giving me all the advice about how to make the songs easy/singable in a way that suggests this should be hard).
You probably still don't believe me (given that the last few people I tried to tell this to didn't).
First, to clarify my claim:
I am partly claiming "the quality of singing was higher than people seem to expect". I think people are just actually decent at singing along with medium-or-easier songs if there's a solid vocal leader and a critical mass of people are also doing it. It's, like, a thing we have evolved to do. Monkey hear, monkey do. Old school hominids didn't worry about how good they sounded. (I'd weakly guess like half of people are kinda tone-deaf but half are okay-ish)
I'm also claiming "the attitude of 'but was the singing good'?" is a way less fun attitude and an attitude that diminishes the total amount of "actually good" singalong music in the world.
If you set the vibe "you must be this good to sing along", people don't sing along as often, then they don't get practice, then they don't become low-key-amateur-musical, then 20 years later they think of themselves as "people who don't sing" instead of "people who do" in a self-fulfilling cycle. There are cultures where it's just accepted that everyone sings, period, and then people get good at it.
I'm claiming, overall, that achieve the goal "people believe in their hearts it is normal to sing, without regard for whether they know the tune" is a better goal than "people sing along well" (although you should do both).
I feel sorta grateful for never having formed an impression that this should be hard, because otherwise I might not have tried to make Solstice.
Now, having said all that, it also matters whether the songs are easy to sing. My family's Christmas Eve singing does start off with the easy songs you almost certainly know before working up to obscure medieval carols that you're definitely gonna stumble through.
Back in 2012-2013, I put a moderate amount of effort into making the early songs of Solstice Act I singalongable, but:
I'm running Bay Solstice this year.
Sizing all of this up, and holding the ambition of "the longterm musicality of Solstice attendees eventually reaches a higher level than it's currently at", and asking myself "What's hard about this? What can I do about that?"...
What's hard is:
What I'm currently planning to do about it:
At a high level: Figure out how to give people good quality, mostly non-silly, meaningful songs that smoothly, subliminally teach people music skills along the way without noticing.
More specifically:
Will that work? I dunno! But, I hope it does.
Anyways, meanwhile, please believe me that 50 people can totally sing along with complicated songs they haven't heard before if the conditions are otherwise right. I've seen it, dude, it's real.