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No, That's Not What the Flight Costs

by Max Niederman
2nd Oct 2025
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[-]FVelde7h50

How would this work with European airlines or airlines from countries where there are much less credit card payments?

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[-]Haiku4h20

I'm curious about this as well, since as far as I'm aware, flights in the US tend to be more expensive than flights in, say, Europe.

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[-]JBlack4h20

Is it plausible that the two different sources of valuation are actually one source? For example, could On Point valuations have formed the basis of the CARES Act filings, or vice versa, or both used data from a common source?

It also seems likely that any borrower has a strong incentive to talk up the value of their collateral, especially so if they get to choose who has access to the data used for valuations.

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[-]Dagon5h20

It would be nice to see an analysis of a median passenger, how much they pay in flights, how much they pay in foregone rewards from a non-airline card, etc.  Or a revenue analysis - valuation is very subject to accounting trickery regarding debt management and liability assignment choices.

Claude says 75-80% of airline revenue is ticket sales, 8-10% add-on fees, and 10-12% credit card loyalty programs.  

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[-]faul_sname4h20

That seems plausible for gross revenue, not so much for net.

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[-]sjadler8h20

Thanks for writing this up! I really liked this related podcast episode with Patrick McKenzie: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1QqFw5hlHKRrjRUTVLfKRV?si=ptVmFvXQRKaPwRNTg1Ollg

I think the biggest update for me was how the rewards programs are inseparable in some sense from the airlines. I think your language too of ordinary flight being a loss leader helps to describe it as well; the airlines couldn’t just have the valuable rewards program, because having the underlying less-profitable flights that make it possible!

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It turns out that airlines largely do not make their money from selling tickets. Instead, airlines are primarily in the business of selling credit card rewards.

Rewards programs are intangible assets, so the financials statements of major airlines do not generally give valuations for them. However, there are a couple public sources for how valuable these rewards programs are:

  1. During COVID, many US major airlines applied for loans under the CARES Act. Some of them used their rewards programs as collateral for these loans, and both United and American publicly disclosed their reward programs' appraised values for this purpose.
  2. On Point Loyalty, a consultancy firm focused on loyalty programs, published appraisals of most airlines' rewards programs in 2023 and in 2020. Their methodology is proprietary and it is unclear what data their numbers are based on, but the estimates agree with the CARES Act disclosures.

Major US airlines also trade publicly, so we can see what portion of the airlines' valuation is due to their reward programs. Here's a chart of the EOY 2023 market cap of the top six US airlines, their On Point reward program valuation, and the difference between those two amounts (figures in millions of USD):

It turns out that the rewards programs are, in many cases, worth more than the airline that owns them. The entire business of selling flight tickets is actually a loss leader for the airlines' real business of selling miles.

It's not just On Point's valuations being wrong either, the United and American CARES Act filings tell the same story:

In fact, the only reason airlines can afford to operate the way they do is because American consumers subsidize the industry every time they make a credit card purchase. About 15% of US interchange (the fee that businesses pay in order to accept card payments) is ultimately paid to airlines in return for loyalty program benefits.

You pay for your flights with every purchase you make, not just when you buy the tickets.