Cross-posted from Twitter; written for mathematicians.
About a year ago, I wrote that superhuman math AI will plausibly arrive in the late 2020s/early 2030s. It now looks like if anything, I was underestimating the pace of progress. In this post, I will try to say something about the sociological implications for mathematics.
I don't want to focus too much on the predicament of the mathematical community today; instead, I'll try to take a longer-term view, and say something about where I think human mathematics might eventually end up. For the sake of argument, I'll assume that within the next decade or so, AI systems are developed that are vastly more capable than humans at every mathematical task (including proving theorems, building theories, and explaining mathematics to humans), and that there nevertheless remains a community of human mathematicians, alive and well, and with funding to pursue mathematics as they please. What would such a community be doing?
Of course, in this hypothetical, mathematicians are not pursuing mathematics for any productive purpose; that is handled by the machines. They are pursuing mathematics for its own sake. There is ... (read more)
At ARC, we have been using "AI use levels" to make it easy to disclose whether and how AI was used to create a piece of content. They were designed with mathematics in mind, but they should be useful beyond that. I am sharing them in case others find them to be a useful standard.
I think it's plausible that for several years in the late 2020s/early 2030s, we will have AI that is vastly superhuman at formal domains including math, but still underperforms humans at most white-collar jobs (and so world GDP growth remains below 10%/year, say – still enough room for AI to be extraordinarily productive compared to today).
Of course, if there were to be an intelligence explosion on that timescale, then superhuman math AI would be unsurprising. My main point is that superhuman math AI still seems plausible even disregarding feedback loops from automation of AI R&D. On the flip side, a major catastrophe and/or coordinated slowdown could prevent both superhuman math AI and broad automation. Since both of these possibilities are widely discussed elsewhere, I will disregard both AI R&D feedback loops and catastrophe for the purposes of this forecast. (I think this is a very salient possibility on the relevant timescale, but won't justify that here.)
My basic reasons for thinking vastly superhuman math AI is a serious possibility in the next 4–8 years (even absent AI R&D feedback loo... (read more)
Couldn't agree more!
One of the saddest ways we would die is if we fail to actually deploy enough theory/math people to work on prompting AIs to solve alignment in the next two-three years, even if it would be totally possible to solve alignment this way.
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You can give an AI a math problem, and it will respond within e.g. a couple of hours with a formal proof or disproof, as long as a human mathematician could have found an informal version of the proof in say 10 years.
Suppose you had a machine like this right now, and it cost $1 per query. How would you use it to improve things?
However, in most of the experimental sciences, formal results are not the main bottleneck, so speed-ups would be more dependent on progress on coding, fuzzier tasks, robotics, and so on
One difficulty with predicting the impact of "solving math" on the world is the Jevons effect (or a kind of generalization of it). If posing a problem formally becomes equivalent to solving it, it would have effects beyond just speeding up existing fully formal endeavors. It might potentially create qualitatively new industries/approaches relying on cranking out such solutions by the dozens.
E. g., perhaps there are some industries which we already can fully formalize, but which still work in the applied-science regime, because building the thing and testing it empirically is cheaper than hiring a mathematician and waiting ten years. But once math is solved, you'd be able to effectively go through dozens of prototypes per day for, say, $1000, while previously, each one would've taken six months and $50,000.
Are there such industries? What are they? I don't know, but I think there's a decent possibility that merely solving formal math would immediately make things go crazy.
Two facts about text watermarking that seem to be frequently misunderstood:
When I say "completely impossible", I mean it in the everyday sense, i.e., not possible to perform using any machine that could feasibly be built, assuming the integrity of the scheme remains intact (so stealing the secret key doesn't count). I do not mean "impossible with infinite computational resources".
On my first point: watermarking does reduce the information-theoretic entropy of generated text in order to insert its cryptographic footprint. However, what matters is not information-theoretic entropy, but computational entropy (often called "pseudoentropy"): roughly, the maximum entropy of a distribution that is indistinguishable to a computationally bounded observer.... (read more)
@Toby_Ord writes about the constant hazard rate model for task duration: a long task can be thought of as a sequence of many short subtasks of fixed difficulty, each of which must be completed to complete the overall task. This explains the approximately sigmoidal relationship between log(task horizon length) and the probability that a given model successfully completes the overall task.
I think this is a useful conceptual framing that explains the data reasonably well. But there is at least one alternative that explains the data about as well, which is to think of the task duration as being similar to a Bradley–Terry score, i.e., an exponential of an Elo rating.
The underlying intuition is that, in addition to having a larger number of subtasks, a longer task also has a higher probability of having a particularly hard subtask. We can crudely approximate the difficulty of a long task by the difficulty of its hardest subtask.
Concretely, consider any fixed random number distribution (e.g. uniform over [0,1]), representing the difficulty of a subtask. Assign to each task T a positive intege... (read more)
Oh right sorry I missed the derivation that among nM+nT samples, the maximum is equally likely to be any of them and so the probability that the largest number from the model the largest of them is
nMnM+nT=11+nT/nM=11+exp(−(lognM−lognT))
This model then predicts that models "ELO ratings" - lognM would grow linearly over time, which (based on this chart GPT5 gave me) I think corresponds roughly with the progress in chess from 2007 onwards
I think is unreasonable to put non-trivial weight (e.g. > 5%) on a superexponential fit to METR's 50% time horizon measurements, or similar recently-collected measurements.
To be precise about what I am claiming and what I am not claiming:
Thanks for writing this up! I actually mostly agree with everything you say about how much evidence the historical data points provide for a superexponential-given-no-automation trend. I think I place a bit more weight on it than you but I think we're close enough that it's not worth getting into.
The reason we have a superexponential option isn't primarily because of the existing empirical data, it's because we think the underlying curve is plausibly superexponential for conceptual reasons (in our original timelines forecast we had equal weight on superexponential and exponential, though after more thinking I'm considering giving more weight to superexponential). I think the current empirical evidence doesn't distinguish much between the two hypotheses.
In our latest published model we had an option for it being exponential up until a certain point, then becoming superexponential afterward. Though this seems fairly ad hoc so we might remove that in our next version.
The main thing I disagree with is your skepticism of the meta-skills argument, which is driving much of my credence. It just seems extremely unintuitive to me to think that it would take as much effective compute to go fr... (read more)
I always thought the best argument for superexponentiality was that (even without AI progress feeding into AI) we’d expect AI to reach an infinite time horizon in a finite time once they were better than humans at everything. (And I thought the “meta skills” thing was reasonable as a story of how that could happen.) This is also mentioned in the original METR paper iirc.
But when AI futures project make that argument, they don’t seem to want to lean very much on it, due to something about the definition. I can’t tell whether the argument is still importantly driving their belief in superexponentiality and this is just a technicality, or whether they think this actually destroys the argument (which would be a major update towards non-superexponentiality to me).
“Another argument for eventually getting superexponentiality is that it seems like superhuman AGIs should have infinite time horizons. However, under the definition of time horizon adapted from the METR report above, it’s not clear if infinite time horizons will ever be reached. This is because AIs are graded on their absolute task success rate, not whether they have a higher success rate than humans. As long as there’s a ... (read more)
I have previously expressed skepticism about modeling time horizons as superexponential (absent feedback loops from AI speeding up AI R&D). In particular, I didn't buy AI Futures Project's argument that there are "meta-skills" that let humans do projects of arbitrary length.
Spelled out in more detail, my skepticism was coming from something like the following argument:
I recently gave this talk at the Safety-Guaranteed LLMs workshop:
The talk is about ARC's work on low probability estimation (LPE), covering: