Add pleasure of buying process: Is the process of buying it give me pleasure? Or I will suffer staying in long line for it?
Other possible questions: May I apply for credit for the thing? Could I earn money using the thing and return some costs?
Is it possible to have the thing in the same postal shipment as other things? What will custom say? Is the thing legal in other countries?
What kind of signalling is the new thing for other people? What other people will think about me than they learn that I have the thing?
Is the thing repairable? How much ownership of it costs?
Added pleasure
Added credit
Added profit
Added combined postage
Added signalling
Added customs to laws and taxes
Added repairs
Added maintenance cost
I am surprise how many reasonable considerations I had missed. Thanks!
I feel like the mindset of this post comes from a bygone era, when people actually spent a large portion of their income on consumer goods. These days people spend most of their money on housing, food, taxes, health care, travel, and education; none of those categories are really amenable to the type of analysis you are suggesting.
As to food, health care, travel and education, the type of analysis still works, it's the amount of parameters that differs. And maybe the frequency of having to analyse.
A full application of this checklist to buying rutabagas at a farmers' market would be awesome X-D
You'd be surprised how... involved buying things from people living in the same village can be. 'Machiavellian' is one word for it.
Or are you, perchance, a city dweller for whom rutabagas are not really important?
You'd be surprised how... involved buying things from people living in the same village can be.
And would Elo's checklist help?
I would suggest that when buying rutabagas in a village you should be much more concerned with interpersonal and social factors, and much less with whether you can rent or timeshare a rutabaga, or, say, with its power options and repair costs.
So? Assign zeroes to these points in some kind of score you keep when reading the list, or embrace the metaphor (can I rent or timeshare a rutabaga? That is, I have some rutabagas this week because my mom is coming to visit and she loves this mysterious vegetable, and than next week I give some rutabaga seed or whatever to the kindly farmer, or maybe just show the rutabaga to my mom and boast, in passing, of my gardening skills and then return it to the kindly farmer on the quiet side... Or, what are the rutabaga's power options and repair costs - that is, does cultivating them enrich the soil or deplete it, and how long can one grow them in the same spot, and do they get hit with weird parasites that would mess with my glorious potatoes and I will end up spending money and time trying to set things right -)
(Also, I don't feel like this is a productive discussion to have:(, since if you consider just one place where you buy rutabagas, it is strictly a subset of you considering n places, for which Elo's list totally applies.)
or embrace the metaphor
Do note where we started :-D
I don't feel like this is a productive discussion to have
It's not particularly productive for rutabaga-buying purposes. It might be productive for thinking about what matters and what doesn't. Matching the effort to the expected change in outcome, y'know...
Housing is something that a lot of these apply to.
Food is a more disposable thing and will fall under $20 often so be not worth the time; but sometimes it will be worth the time.
health care can be shopped around for, and you can find experts in the area and information online.
Travel certainly can be shopped around for.
Education is not a physical product; so many of these concepts do not apply (i.e. heavy/light), there are still several of these that do apply though.
"Can the thing be ordered online?"
Time is, in a lot of cases, more valuable than money. And you can save a great deal of time (and aggravation) by ordering stuff. Amazon Prime is a wonder in this respect.
I didn't include this because it seemed so obvious. But I want to include the option to check if it's available easier in person than online... (so included now)
Nice.
See also the repositories:
Low Hanging fruit for buying a better life - What can I purchase with $100 that will be the best thing I can buy to make my life better?
Financial Effectiveness Repository - Recommendations and ideas about financial effectiveness?
Boring Advice Repository - Also has quite a lot advice on how and what to buy.
You might also consider adding a like to you post there and/or shopping for further ideas there.
These are all excellent and related ideas. This one was about specific process when buying; those are more broad. Definitely relevant.
I have included them in the top post.
The following is an incomplete list of suggestions for generic considerations that you might like to make when you go out to buy a thing. I have tried to put the list in order; being generic - certain things will be more or less important in different orders.
0. Do I need the thing? Am I just wanting it on a whim (you are allowed to do that, but at least try to not do that for many expensive things that don’t have resale value)? If a month had gone by, would I still be wanting it?
Consider your options that avoid buying it:
Some items are perfectly fine second hand, i.e. books, whereas others are potentially less fine (i.e. cars) where more can go wrong with a second hand one. The point of this inclusion was to encourage you to consider it when you previously would not have. for whichever reason. Books second hand can also be occasionally out of date or damaged; and cars second hand can be excellent purchases.
Knowledge about the thing:
Purchase considerations:
General specifics:
Miscellaneous considerations:
Nearly all of the points listed here could be expanded to its own post. These points apply to everyone to different extents. “Considering borrowing” is advice that is priceless to one person, and useless to another person. similarly; “budget” might be significant to one person because they don’t spend often but then spend whatever they like when they need to; but useless to another person because they live and breathe budget.
I plan to cover this in another post about making advice applicable to you.
meta: 3 hours write up. 3-5 reviewers, slack channel inspiring the post, and giving me a place to flesh out the thoughts.
This post is certainly open to improvements. Please add your comments below.
See also: My Table of contents for other posts in this collection.
See also other repositories on lesswrong: