JoshuaFox

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Correct. That is why the original Turing Test is a sufficient-but-not-necessary test: It is meant to identify an AI that is definitively above human level.

What about a Turing Test variant in which such inquiries are banned?

That would be possible. Plenty of people don't know much about this topic. If you had such a judge, do you think actually doing a  Turing Test (or some variant) for ChatGPT is a good ideaa

Nice! I am surprised we don't hear more about attempts at a Turing Test, even if it is not quite there yet.

That looks pretty close to the level of passing a Turing Test to me. So is there a way of trying a full Turing Test, or something like it, perhaps building on the direction you show here?

 Do you think there is a place for a Turing-like test that  determines how close to human intelligence it is, even if it has not reached that level?

ChatGPT isn't at that level.

That could well be. Do you think there is a place for a partial Turing Test as in the Loebner Prize -- to determine how close to human intelligence it is, even if it has not reached that level?

I thought there was a great shortage of cadavers. How did they manage to get them for a non-medical school, indeed for use by non-students? Also, I am quite impressed that any course, particularly in the Bay Area, is $60 or free.

Nice! Is there also a list of AI-safety corporations and non-profits, with a short assessment of each where  feasible: goals, techniques, leaders, number of employees, liveness, progress to date?

I organized that, so let me say that:

  • That online meetup, or the invitation to Vassar, was not officially affiliated to or endorsed by SSC. Any responsibility for inviting him is mine.
  • I have  conversed with him a few times, as follows:
  • I met him in Israel around 2010. He was quite interesting, though he did try to get me to withdraw my retirement savings to invest with him. He was somewhat persuasive. During our time in conversation, he made some offensive statements, but I am perhaps less touchy about such things than the younger generation.
  • In 2012, he explained  Acausal Trade to me, and that was the seed of  this post. That discussion was quite sensible and I thank him for that.
  • A few years later, I invited him to speak at LessWrong Israel.  At that time I thought him a mad genius -- truly both.  His talk was verging on incoherence, with flashes of apparent insight.
  • Before the online meetup, 2021, he insisted on a preliminary talk; he made statements that produced twinges of persuasiveness. (Introspecting that is kind of interesting, actually.) I stayed with it for 2 or more hours before begging off, because it was fascinating in a way. I was able to analyze his techniques as Dark Arts. Apparently I am mature enough to shrug off such techniques.
  • His talk at my online meetup was even less coherent than any before, with multiple offensive elements. Indeed, I believe it was a mistake to have him on.

If I have offended anyone, I apologize, though  I believe that letting someone speak is generally not something to be afraid of. But I wouldn't invite him again.

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