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30 day karma

by lessdazed
24th Aug 2011
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30 day karma
25wedrifid
8wedrifid
12arundelo
2wedrifid
8[anonymous]
23Vladimir_Nesov
12drpowell
1The Dao of Bayes
8steven0461
8Kaj_Sotala
6[anonymous]
3lukeprog
1Vladimir_Nesov
4lukeprog
3lukeprog
3The Dao of Bayes
3wedrifid
1Eliezer Yudkowsky
9The Dao of Bayes
8KPier
9matt
4KPier
3Vladimir_Nesov
4KPier
0Vladimir_Nesov
4Vladimir_Nesov
3NancyLebovitz
3[anonymous]
1wedrifid
0Vladimir_Nesov
0drpowell
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[-]wedrifid14y250

Ack! Loss aversion adding to the addiction potential.

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[-]wedrifid14y80

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to find that I feel a degree of reward at noticing my score drop. It indicates a reduction in internet time which has something of a causal relationship with productivity. I think I'll encourage that framing!

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[-]arundelo14y120

I want to upvote you for this, but ...

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[-]wedrifid14y20

Don't worry, another (net) vote must have passed out of scope. Stable at 275 still. ;)

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[-][anonymous]14y80

This was my reaction as well. Perhaps there can be an option to hide it?

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov14y230

Since Yudkowsky's 30-day Karma is currently 6055, and he hasn't posted that much over the last month, the answer must be "all votes on all posts within the past 30 days, regardless of the age of the post or comment".

This doesn't look that useful, I think it should only count votes on recent posts/comments. Also, this measure, if amended this way, looks informative enough to allow an option of viewing a longer list of active contributors, which could be linked to from caption of the sidebar section, like with "recent posts".

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[-]drpowell14y120

I think this is sensible. I've changed the code to only include articles and comments from the last 30 days. (The side box may not update immediately as your browser is likely to do some caching.)

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[-]The Dao of Bayes14y10

Thank you again. Karma Delta is a very neat new feature to play with, and it's making me smile to see the new "Top Contributors, 30 Days" :)

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[-]steven046114y80

This would be so much more useful if it were based more heavily on comments. Right now, it's just "people who made a popular top-level post in the last month", which is information you can easily find by just scanning the front page.

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[-]Kaj_Sotala14y80

Even though I'm the one who originally suggested weighting top-post karma more than comment karma, I've felt that 10 karma per vote for a top-level is a bit too much. Five karma would seem more appropriate, weighting top-level posts more but also giving a more realistic option to climb in ratings via comment karma alone.

I wonder if a "top 100 contributors" page, with both all-time and 30 day options, would be a good or bad idea. It might more effectively encourage participation, but also make people more addicted and possibly cause undesirable status dynamics.

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[-][anonymous]14y60

However "all votes on all posts within the past 30 days, regardless of the age of the post or comment" would make it easier to realize when someone has been abusing the system for retaliation.

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[-]lukeprog14y30

What algorithm would you suggest? Perhaps 'karma from posts or comments that were originally CREATED within the last 30 days'?

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov14y10

Yes, obviously. (For posts, it should be publication time, don't know if both creation and publication time are stored.)

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[-]lukeprog14y40

Okay. I've communicated this to TrikeApps.

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[-]lukeprog14y30

...and it now appears to have been implemented!

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[-]The Dao of Bayes14y30

Agreed. The "Top Contributors, 30 Days:" would definitely make a lot more sense if it was based on your suggested "karma from recent posts/comments" instead - right now it overlaps with the "all time" list except for gwern.

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[-]wedrifid14y30

I definitely agree with this part. (Even if it means I can expect to spend less time in the 30 days top!)

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[-]Eliezer Yudkowsky14y10

Agreed.

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[-]The Dao of Bayes14y90

Yay for the new feature. I like it a lot. Thank you to whichever coder did this :)

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[-]KPier14y80

My 30-day karma is higher than my overall karma, and I can't find anything in my post/comment history that's at negative points. Bug, or does the 30-day feature count all upvotes instead of net karma?

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[-]matt14y90

Total Karma cares where a post was when it was voted on. 30 days Karma cares where a post is now. Do you have a MAIN post that was in DISCUSSION when it received some of its upvotes?

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[-]KPier14y40

Yes, I do. That must be it; thanks!

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov14y30

It doesn't just count upvotes, as roland currently has negative Karma delta. You were probably downvoted more than 30 days ago (on comments that were since upvoted to positive total), and these downvotes are not counted in the 30-days sum, but count in the total. But this does look suspicious.

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[-]KPier14y40

Right, but I haven't gained all my upvotes in the last 30 days, either. (The current scores would seem to imply that my net was -10 for the time before this month; I don't think that could possibly be accurate)

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov14y00

Right.

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov14y40

Minor nitpick: the minus sign in negative Karma delta is hard to notice. Perhaps make it more prominent, or use a shade of red in the bubble.

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[-]NancyLebovitz14y30

Where is Karma delta?

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[-][anonymous]14y30

Right under the regular total user karma indicator.

Also for people who don't have a science background and might not understand the question, an upper case delta ( Δ ) can be used to indicate change of a quantity. So delta karma is change of karma (in this case change of karma for posts made in the last 30 days).

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[-]wedrifid14y10

Ok, something must have changed. I just went from 580 to 281. Looks like Eliezer dropped to 500 from 6k too.

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[-]Vladimir_Nesov14y00

(By the way, if I'm not mistaken, my Karma dropped exactly 100 points the moment this change rolled out. Possibly a symptom of some counting bug in the new (or old) version?)

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[-]drpowell14y00

Strange. The calculation for total Karma has not been touched by these recent changes.

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Is the karma shown that accumulated from posts and comments that were made within the past 30 days, or from all votes on all posts within the past 30 days, regardless of the age of the post or comment?