Altruism

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Sure, but it does not preclude it. Moreover, if the costs of the actions are not borne by the altruist (e.g. by defrauding customers, or extortion), I would not consider it altruism.

In this sense, altruism is a categorization tag placed on actions.

I do see how you might add a second, deontological definition ('a belief system held by altruists'), but I wouldn't. From the post, "Humane" or "Inner Goodness" seem more apt in exploring these ideas.

Cause "according to the criterion of others' welfare" doesn't require "at ones own expense".

I do not see the contradiction. Could you elaborate?

I added Eliezer's definition of "altruist" to the page, which contradicts the current definition, which I think is wrong and should be removed. Thoughts?

1Zolmeister1y
I do not see the contradiction. Could you elaborate?
2Yoav Ravid1y
Cause "according to the criterion of others' welfare" doesn't require "at ones own expense".
1Zolmeister1y
Sure, but it does not preclude it. Moreover, if the costs of the actions are not borne by the altruist (e.g. by defrauding customers, or extortion), I would not consider it altruism. In this sense, altruism is a categorization tag placed on actions. I do see how you might add a second, deontological definition ('a belief system held by altruists'), but I wouldn't. From the post, "Humane" or "Inner Goodness" seem more apt in exploring these ideas.

"an "altruist" is someone who chooses between actions according to the criterion of others' welfare" - Eliezer Yudkowsky