COVID-19: List of ideas to reduce the direct harm from the virus, with an emphasis on unusual ideas

by JustinShovelain7 min read9th Apr 202013 comments



This is a collection of ideas on what interventions could be investigated, funded, or implemented to potentially reduce the harms from COVID-19 by intervening directly on the causal chain leading to infection and death. In particular, it has a lot of “unusual ideas” that haven’t gotten much attention yet.

Caveats: Most of the “unusual ideas” (see later section) were generated or vetted only quickly. Before implementation, they will definitely need further investigation, and some are only meant to serve as inspiration for better interventions. But capacity to implement them if they do work can generally be built in parallel with investigating whether they work. Further, it’s also possible that some things here could have consequences worse than the disease (stuff like surveillance states, long term harm from bad vaccinations, or dual use dangerous biotechnology). Therefore, the suggestion here is to pour a lot of resources into investigating those particularly risky options, rather than to immediately and unilaterally implement them.

As the surrounding context to keep in mind, we want to:

  • Stop this pandemic in its tracks
  • Minimize lives lost, economic disruption, psychological harm, and political harm done directly by the disease or our responses to it
  • Perhaps, if lucky, find a way to make humanity better off afterwards

For some related research topics check out Coronavirus Research Ideas for EAs.

A general list of things for interfering with the causal chain of infection and death

In this section, I’ll list categories of interventions to reduce the harm from COVID-19. These should ideally be investigated and implemented in parallel at speed for something as disruptive as this virus. Some of these are being implemented by varying degrees in nations fighting the pandemic.

  • Large scale prevention of exposure: Social distancing and managing packages and surfaces
  • Small scale of prevention of exposure: Physically blocking the virus before it gets to the body
    • masks
    • sanitation
    • etc.
  • Chemical interventions once it has entered the body: Vaccines, antivirals
  • Physiological support once it has entered the body: Stuff like ventilator production and supplemental oxygen
  • Meta: Investigate the alternative causal pathways to death and hypotheses about them; answering questions like: how much damage and death is due to lung damage, cytokine storms, damage to the nervous system, or interfering with oxygen transportation in the blood?
  • Miscellaneous “unusual ideas” (see later section)

Policy for accelerating vaccine development (and similar for antivirals and possibly some other potential solutions)

  • Many candidates can be tested in parallel for speed
  • To speed up the testing of a specific vaccine we can skip directly to later stage trials - exposing humans to the virus
  • We can accelerate testing for long-term negative effects by having a large and diverse set of volunteers take it at once - effects that are rare or slow to show themselves will be detected much faster this way
  • Slow and rare effects can plausibly also be detected more easily by selecting people based on weakness to the plausible rare or slow effect, or alternatively exposing people to conditions that would cause a plausible rare effect or slow effect to show itself
  • In parallel with testing, production capability and perhaps even stocks of plausible vaccine candidates can be built up and even distributed so they are ready to use on a moment’s notice if the vaccine works. (Bill Gates is now doing this.)
  • See also the this EA forum post

Note: Some of these ideas will face ethical objections or may be hard politically to implement.

Unusual ideas

Minimizing environmental exposure

  • Coppering surfaces to decrease the virus lingering time (this effect may not last much beyond when the copper surface oxidizes)
  • Leaving soap residues on surfaces to decrease virus lingering time (plausible because covid-19 is surrounded by a lipid membrane, but this may not work at normal temperature and humidity)
  • There may be other alternative better antiviral coatings that can be coated on surfaces
  • Having UVc lights of the ideal wavelength in people dense areas
    • Possibly having them on when people are not around
    • Maybe you could even build something to shine in the lungs, unlikely though
  • Assuming COVID-19 exhibits seasonality: changing the temperature, humidity, or wind patterns inside people-dense areas to induce artificial summer and “outside”

Social distancing measures and management

  • Applying even more sophisticated strategies for contact tracing and immunity
    • Remove the small-world network hubs or perhaps just wait for them to become immune (or replace them with with immune folks) to reduce the viral reproduction number
    • Highly privacy preserving contact tracing: and
    • Take into account variance of R0 when doing contact tracing and lockdowns
    • Do pooled and random sample testing to more efficiently use limited testing ability and search for community spread
    • As an idea for inspiration (not feasible as is), change the network topology of interactions
    • Another idea for inspiration (not feasible as is), move the recovered people around, integrate them into the social web, and have them act as firebreaks. You take recovered or otherwise immune people and move them to places where there is an outbreak in order to drop R0 below 1
  • Apply a more synchronous form of lockdown. In theory if everyone was in lockdown for a month at the same time we’d be able to identify essentially everyone who has it and have the mild cases non contagious by the end of that time period (we’d still have to be careful with contaminated surfaces (especially frozen or refrigerated items)). Something like this could very well be cheaper and easier than an extended partial lockdown.
  • In order to spread out the timing of when people are sick, a staggered form of quarantine where you expose some people earlier than others could be implemented. This option is not a good option and more of a last resort to spread out when people are at the hospitals and give us more time to come up with something better. It is better than just letting the epidemic spread freely though. Perhaps implement something like this controlled infection
  • Apply complicated forms of the "dance": things like varying the degree and intensity of tracing and lockdown over time and locations dynamically in response to contagion (perhaps using something like a PID controller). For some concreteness check out:
  • Ubiquitous health monitoring (temperature sensors, cough sound detectors, ...) - this can done using either attached or far away sensors
  • Figure out how to make the symptoms more apparent to people (by education, customized biotracking, something that amplifies symptoms (stuff like the opposite of a cough suppressant or fever reducer?), ...)

Decrease the initial viral load

Chemical means of countering covid 19 infections

  • Put the entire population on weak immune boosters (stuff like vitamins D and C, selenium, ...)
  • Put the entire population on stronger forms of immune system boosters (I think there are some immune system boosters in certain vaccines). Alternatively maybe just hand them out to be used at the first sign of illness
  • Prime the immune system before or during the earlier stages of the disease
  • Put the entire population on other immune boosting strategies: intermittent fasting, cold showers, saunas, good sleep, getting to the ideal weight for respiratory disease, oxytocin/social support/hugs, placebo pills, ...
  • Avoid immune system suppressants like steroidal chemicals, NSAIDs and Tylenol, and symptom suppressants (symptom suppressant use may also increase contagion by enabling people to go out without visible signs of illness (to themselves or others) and select for more dangerous versions of the virus)
  • Lots of speculative chemicals like quercetin, rosemary, ...
  • Transfer blood plasma/antibodies from the recovered to the ill (some people are implementing this) - possibly boost this by hooking up circulatory systems or boosting the recovered antibody production (perhaps by transferring some more viral load later)
  • Transfer blood from the young to the old - probably need immune suppressors for this because you'd need to transfer immune cells and in any event this shouldn't work because you very likely need to generate new immune cells to handle the disease
  • Disperse zinc lozenges to the population to use as soon as they even speculate they are coming down with something in order to kill the virus in their throat and perhaps upper respiratory system to decrease or perhaps eliminate their viral load. High percentage ethanol vapor can also produce this effect.
  • Perhaps the high temperature and humidity of saunas can kill the virus in one's upper respiratory system and perhaps help clear the lower lungs
  • Disperse a coat of antiviral and non-cytotoxic oil, docosanol, deep into the lungs - Danielle Fong had this idea but she worries about it gumming up the lungs and it hasn't gone anywhere yet
  • See if chemicals useful for dealing with high altitude or boosting oxygen levels help
  • Aerobic exercise to boost lung capacity and cardiovascular fitness before exposure (but not after)
  • Decrease exposure to air pollution and smoke
  • Look into what athletes use when doping to boost red blood cell count and hemoglobin levels
  • Use chemicals that decrease cytokine storms (like possibly vitamin C, melatonin, tocilizumab, and drugs that help with autoimmune disorders)
  • Maybe some of the chemicals used in preventing autophagy, stroke damage, etc, can be used to prevent damage in this case
  • Maybe boost antioxidants to inhibit damage to the lungs and inhibit cytokine storms
  • Maybe inject lots of ACE2 receptors into the body and lungs to divert the virus away from its target
  • Castration imitation chemicals, to regenerate the thyroid and possibly return it to a state similar to that of younger people where the death rate is lower. I recall reading a discussion on this somewhere but cannot find it again.
  • Have people take estrogen or phytoestrogens, assuming that is relevant for the difference between the male and female fatality rates: Estrogen receptor impairs interleukin-6 expression by preventing protein binding on the NF-kappaB site.

Non-chemical ways of countering covid 19 infections

  • Implement sophisticated forms of liquid breathing
  • Maybe there is a way to ultrasonically shake the lungs to clear them, similar to what is used for kidney stones
  • Maybe there is truth to the possibility that some forms of near infrared can boost healing. Maybe bathe the patient or their lungs (somehow) in it
  • See if increasing partial air pressure can help for blood oxygenation
  • Have people implement prone positions in the earlier stages of the disease or for self care if hospitals are overwhelmed


I again wish to emphasize that the ideas collected here range from strongly implied by science to be helpful (such as copper surfaces) to the very speculative (such as an antiviral “oil” for the lungs), and that some have the potential to cause more harm than the disease itself. Many of these ideas would need to be investigated further before implementation, though capacity to implement could be built up at the same time. And hopefully some of the "unusual ideas" can inspire more such ideas from others. In general, people need to move fast to combat COVID-19, but also need to be thoughtful, and to avoid information hazards and highly risky actions.

What do you think of these ideas; how probable, costly, and effective would they be?

Do you have additional ideas you think would be good to investigate and implement?

I hope that promising ideas from here will inspire additional progress and will be further investigated, forwarded to relevant parties, and acted upon if sufficiently vetted and developed.

Thanks to David Kristoffersson, Michael Aird, and Elizabeth Van Nostrand for editing help, to Alexey Turchin for sharing some ideas, and to the many people who have been coming up with great ideas for fighting the pandemic, many of which I've included here or have been inspired by.


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See my answer of another link below. Short version:

  • Severe disease is associated with hyper-coagulation, and people experiencing breathing difficulties should be treated with anticoagulants.
  • Antivirals and anything believed to decrease viral replication should be given early, to the more moderate cases to decrease the odds of progressing to severe, rather than only to severe cases.
  • A case is likely to be followed by a period of immunosuppression, much like measles, so those who become ill should be prepared to be careful afterwards.

Leaving soap residues on surfaces to decrease virus lingering time

Given that plenty of people are now were cloth-based masks, could there be a benefit to soak those masks in soap to make them accumulate less virus particles?

There have been studies of soaking them in brine, so they have tiny salt crystals in the cloth that dessicate viruses that land on them. Had a positive effect!

Possible use of ACEi or ARB drugs al long as Blood Pressure is not too low see

Nutrient rich diet rich in digestible complete protein, accessible minerals like Zinc and Iron, Vitamins D3 and K2. Hint: meat.

Low carbohydrate healthy fat diet reduces Oxygen requirement by 15% & improves ventilator outcomes.

Evidence based approach to reducing incidence of metabolic syndrome, obesity and diabetes in the community. High blood glucose levels impact immune system function adversely and can be rapidly controlled in many people by greatly reducing carbohydrate intake.

Given higher death rates from pneumonia in people with *low* LDL cholesterol, and weak evidence for overall benefits, reconsider widespread use of statin medications.

Use of less accurate tests as pre-screening for tests and for selective isolation e.g. Temperature, as used in the one actual success story Taiwan. You can check far more temperatures than you can do blood tests or swabs. If you have cold/flu symptoms you are not going to stay at school/work/ get on the subway. Selective testing is one way to solve the "needle in a haystack" problem of looking for community transmitted cases See also for Taiwan's low rate, far lower than much touted alleged success stories.

There is also a whole category of "preparing for the next one" items, which Taiwan did following the SARS episode a while back.

Related to decreasing initial viral load: Anyone want to guess whether there’s a significant (10%+) chance that getting infected via rectum has a flu-like Infection Fatality Rate at any dose?

It might both have a higher or lower fatality rate. It's hard to say without clinical trials.

On the plus side, the patients should be less contagious.

Zinc ionophores such as Chloroquin and quercetin transport zinc across cell membranes, increasing zinc density within cells by 100 fold. Zinc interrupts RNA replication within the cell.

Daily intake of zinc tablets along with quercetin rich foodstuffs washed down with nice glass of red wine is the prophylactic for me.

By contrast, I take a 50mg zinc pill whenever I wake up with the dry/aching sinus/back of throat I've come to associate with getting a cold half a day later.

Lately, I've done this so early in the infection cycle that I'm often left uncertain as to whether I've even had a cold, at least until the snot starts a couple of days later. I've even combined this with DayQuil/NyQuil for two days as soon as the snot starts, resulting in effectively no downtime.

Why would you take zinc tablet over lozenges? How much additional copper are you taking to make up for the additional zinc?