Thanks for the writeup.
I believe @Duncan Sabien (Inactive) is the person responsible for this being a widespread tool in our culture. (I use this at basically all events I run to gather the attention of a large group for a talk or announcement.)
Cool but too dismissive of the "clap if you can hear me" technique imo. That one has a strong advantage that it can be easily by people who've never heard of it, it's very direct and simple.
But if you can introduce a group norm, my preferred (that I've used over a hundred times by now in many crowds) is raising arms and humming. It's faster for the signal to spread when it's also visual, and more fun for me. I generally do it as a "my arms slowly come up above me in a very slow clap" while humming, and everyone's joined by the time I finish the clap
This technique is regularly used at LessWrong Community Weekends, especially for sessions in the big room (typically 50 to 150 people). When this is introduced in the opening session, a third to half of the room is already familiar with it, the rest pick it up easily indeed.
From memory, room spreads to the full room in ten seconds at most.
I find this technique annoying. It takes a lot of time, isn't explicit about what it's doing, and aims to shut everyone up when usually you just need critical mass.
Maybe if you're in a large crowd outside (or in some other place with bad acoustics and no stage or chair one can use to get everyone's attention visually)? But usually even then you can just walk around saying "I'll be doing announcements in one minute, be ready" to people, and then a minute later it's real easy to get peoples' attention when you stand in the middle and ask for it.
aims to shut everyone up when usually you just need critical mass.
I'm a bit confused why you think this – every time I've ever done this it's definitely been the goal to shut everyone up (so everyone can hear whatever the announcement is). I'm confused when this has happened to you where that wasn't the goal?
Sometimes yes - e.g. when the announcement is "here is a thing we need everyone to avoid doing," or "here is information you will need to use by yourself in a few hours and if you miss it it will be a pain."
Sometimes the announcement is "let me name and thank our volunteers" or "here is a spoken reminder of the program that you could also find on the website" or "here is a short bio for our speaker," where not everyone needs to be active listening but everyone needs to be respectful, which can still include quiet conversation.
Sometimes the announcement is "now it's time to do the thing you all signed up for" or "here is information you will use in a group setting in a few minutes," and if you don't reach everyone, they'll figure it out.
Fwiw if I were organizing an event I would want people ~silent for each of those, and I definitely want everyone to be literally silent for at least like 10 seconds so I can verify that people are paying attention.
I've never seen the humming used except in situations where the point was to explicitly change the vibe of the room from "people are doing whatever" to "the activity we were waiting for is beginning and there is now a shared intention of some kind." And people who don't want to be part of that intention are more like supposed to leave the room if they don't want to be part of it.
But usually even then you can just walk around saying "I'll be doing announcements in one minute, be ready" to people, and then a minute later it's real easy to get peoples' attention when you stand in the middle and ask for it.
This also seems like it takes way longer than the humming thing?
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I'd agree "Clap once / twice / three times if you can hear" is faster, and is what I use for quick logistical announcements. The humming thing is specifically when I want to shift the energy to something more relaxed and contemplative.
[sorry I don't know why I'm so randomly triggered by this]
This also seems like it takes way longer than the humming thing?
It takes longer for the organizer (unless you're recruiting confederates who know to do the humming thing) and less long for the participants.
Aesthetically I'm just a big fan of using your words for this sort of thing. If I'm talking to you 1 on 1 and want you to be quiet for a minute, I should just say "I need a favor. Could you be quiet for one minute?" If I have 100 people I want to make an announcement to, the same underlying generators of what I feel is "polite" are still there.
[sorry I don't know why I'm so randomly triggered by this]
It sounds like this might be a part of bay area rat subculture? And so through exposure and context maybe you've already transformed your aesthetic experience of it, and also me saying I find it annoying is an attack on the culture as a whole?
It takes a lot of time
IME it's like 10 seconds for a room of 50 people?
isn't explicit about what it's doing
I think I first experienced it ~4 years ago, and it quickly became obvious to me what it's trying to do.
Seems like a great technique for someone to use if there's a real announcement to make and the instigator has already been distinguished as the person with the authority/responsibility to coordinate things.
But adding on the idea that all individuals should feel emboldened to unilaterally bid for a contagious hum whenever they feel the room is too noisy... that's a poorly designed norm
I suggested organizers should occasionally use this tool they already have for the purpose of resetting the noise level at events they are responsible for.
Sorry if I should have read that passage more carefully.
Even when it's the main organizer doing it - my hunch is, interrupting everyone and requiring them to do a silly ritual soley for the purpose of temporily pushing volume below equilibrium should be avoided.
Haven't organized or attended EA/LW meetups in a while but I remember witnessing multiple failures of the kind "organizer overplayed their role, left impression they were performing gratuitous weirdness"
Often when running meetups you’ll have several lively conversations going at the same time. This is a great problem to have, but it can make it difficult to get everyone’s attention for announcements.
Try using “Contagious Humming” when you need to silence a crowd:
Introducing this technique to a new group is often pretty easy. It helps to get buy-in from some deputies. Explain to a few social-looking people that you want them to call the room to order by getting everyone to hum, aside, then have them circulate through the room to pass the word while you and your starting conversational circle all hum. It’ll take a little longer but, in my experience, people catch on surprisingly quickly.
This can also be used to reset everyone’s volume. Meetups are often held in rooms with bare walls or floors, causing a subtle echo. Often people instinctually raise their voice to offset this, without even realizing they’re doing it, causing the other conversations in the room to get louder in response. This feedback loop can cause a cacophony that is deeply unpleasant for people with sensory issues, or who have hearing damage making it difficult to separate voices out from background noise.
This is a common technique, but it’s barely discussed online.[1] I didn’t see it documented on LessWrong at all. I wanted this post to exist as a reference that I could link to.
Why does this work?
It’s not rocket science: when you’re humming, you can’t talk. This gradually spreads between conversation circles, as someone in each notices and either drops out of the conversation to hum or starts looking around in confusion to see why everyone has decided to be bees all of a sudden.[2]
Humming is effective on holdouts because they notice that more than just their own conversational circle can now hear them. It is inherently awkward to suddenly be talking to a larger crowd who didn’t hear the first part of your point. Often people will try to finish their thought, go on for a few more seconds, and awkwardly trail off as they try to start a new sentence and get confused looks in response. Trust the process, this is fine, they’ll know better next time.
Humming is also calming, both to do and to hear. An article in Psychology Today tries to explain why.[3]
Better Than Alternatives
The fact that you can’t talk while humming makes it better than other methods, like shouting over the crowd, or “clap X times if you can hear me”. Methods focused on sharp sounds like claps or yells can amp up a crowd, making them subtly more likely to keep talking and finishing their point.
Yelling or clapping also amps up you, the speaker. This is sometimes appropriate, if you’re leading a pep rally, or need the crowd to be energetic for some reasons. But this is best used sparingly, only when you actually intend the effect. Oftentimes you’ll want to calm, dismiss, or give logistical notes to a crowd. In those cases, humming for 30 seconds beforehand is better preparation for your own voice.
Give “Contagious Humming” a try and report back.
This was one of the top search results, and it’s not even the focus of the post: https://experientialtools.com/2012/03/16/large-group-facilitation-tips/
Their confusion can be very amusing, if you’re into that.
Something about the vagus nerve?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassionate-brain/202410/the-power-of-humming