In the next month, the administrators of Less Wrong are going to sit down with a professional designer to tweak the site design. But before they do, now is your chance to make suggestions that will guide their redesign efforts.

How can we improve the Less Wrong user experience? What features aren’t working? What features don’t exist? What would you change about the layout, templates, images, navigation, comment nesting, post/comment editing, side-bars, RSS feeds, color schemes, etc? Do you have specific CSS or HTML changes you'd make to improve load time, SEO, or other valuable metrics?

The rules for this thread are:

  • One suggestion per comment.
  • Upvote all comments you’d like to see implemented.

 

BUT DON’T JUMP TO THE COMMENTS JUST YET: Take a few minutes to collect your thoughts and write down your own ideas before reading others’ suggestions. Less contamination = more unique ideas + better feature coverage!

Thanks for your help!

Official Less Wrong Redesign: Call for Suggestions
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One thing I'd really like to see: make the total number of upvotes and downvotes visible separately instead of just the difference. That way controversial posts and comments will stand apart from uninteresting ones.

Perhaps a collapsible "karma details" section, so that users still have the option to see a single number for each comment?

[-]satt120

Might be easier to add "show upvotes/downvotes" & "show total score only" radio buttons to user configurations. That way those of us who want to see upvotes & downvotes in general don't have to click a collapsible link for lots of comments.

[-]Louie730

Provide a solution for polling in posts and comments. Something more elegant than using multiple comments + a karma sink.

0jsalvatier
An +/- agree button partially fixes this.
-1matt
Polling seems (IMHO) to work very well given the current tech. Unpack "elegant" for me.

It should be possible to put an entire poll in one comment, with machine-readable distinctions between different replies; and poll responses should not interact with pollster karma. (It might be nice if one got a karma point for answering a poll, to incentivize participation, but that's not so much an elegance matter.)

6RHollerith
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2445039 -- example of how polls work on Hacker News.
[-]hwc240

Here's another proposal for dealing with meetups: some sort of prominent widget that will show (only upcoming) meetups in chronological order, with links:

Upcoming Meetups

6hwc
And what happens when we have a regular weekly or monthly meetup in every English-speaking city of more than two million? I've noticed that the regular meetups (LW/NYC, LW/Bay Area, LW/London, et cetera) don't bother to announce every meeting. New users have to know to look at the wiki page. Maybe this proposed widget should include these regular meetups (with links to the relevant wiki page) for all events within the next three weeks.
5Cayenne
Do geolocation or enter a postal code, and see only the ones nearby? Edit - please disregard this post
[-]hwc120

I don't trust geolocation.

Also, there's an advantage in a new user seeing all the meetups, since it accurately tells them how active we are.

And what about people who travel a lot and might check out a meetup in another city if they were reminded about it?

1matt
Geolocation usually works. The cost of a miss is low. If the user had defined their location in their user profile, we'd use that instead.
0jimrandomh
This would be better if it also used geocoding based on IP address to filter so it shows only nearby groups by default.
0hwc
The most straightforward way to have this would be to have a new database table with the following fields: date, location, and hyperlink. A set of trusted users (including one or two from each regular group) could add, edit, or delete records. Periodically, records with dates more one day in the past will be automatically purged. There's no need to automate this, since maintaining it takes a small amount of effort relative to the effort of organizing the meetup.
7Spurlock
I also posted about this a while ago. My recommendation is that there be a user preference menu shown when signing up (and editable later): -=Menu=- [ ] Show all upcoming meetups [ ] Show only meetups in my area (reveals form for inputting area) [ ] Don't show upcoming meetups
1mutterc
I'd be willing to code up a meetup-calendar site, though: * it'd take me a long time to get done * I'd need the ability to authenticate LW accounts (could have separate ones, but that's annoying for users) * What are the odds I could make something nontrivially integratable into LW's hosting?

Make a prominent "next" button on the sequence pages so you can easily go from one sequence post to the next post. There's currently a button but it is difficult to find and requires two clicks.

Get the green score-bubbles to cover the entire karma score, so that all the digits are visible.

Reason: I found myself less motivated to comment on LW after I got a fifth digit to my score. I think this is because it feels (to some low-level part of my brain) as though my karma now increases ten times as slowly. If this is true for others with five-digit karma scores, we might be pulling motivation from good contributors.

Why do we have tenfold karma for front-page posts, anyway, as opposed to say threefold?

ETA: yes, front-page posts draw in newbies in a way that is probably undercounted with onefold karma, but it's my impression that the collection of LW's comments is a lot better than the collection of LW's top-level posts (at least post-Eliezer), and so maybe we should just be directing potential new users immediately to the (good) comments instead, somehow. It seems to me that by having length as a de facto requirement for top-level posts, we encourage posts that take a long time to make their point and that go off on long chains of independent steps that have mistakes in them that could be corrected if they were presented in smaller chunks.

3atucker
Maybe do a weird scoring rule that turns upvotes into karma points? Like, a 1 upvote comment is 1 karma, but a 5 upvote comment is 15 or something.
6Alicorn
I reflexively select-all whenever I load a page on LW.
3steven0461
In the mean time, those suffering from this can check the "top contributors" sidebar.
4Alicorn
There's a delay!
3NancyLebovitz
I voted up even though anything that demotivates other posters at the low end of top-10 karma works to my advantage in this somewhat arbitrary race.
0Gray
Maybe it would be useful to show a frequency score (karma points per week/day) on the main page next to your username, rather than your overall score. You can still get your overall score on your profile page.
0[anonymous]
The 10x karma inflation for front-page posts may be similarly demotivating many people.

Please, please keep the color scheme. It is restful.

EDIT: removed other suggestions to put in their own comments.

7lsparrish
Make colors user customizable perhaps?
3Spurlock
While I mostly like the color scheme, I think the gray on the sides looks kind of sad. I'd like to see it a bit darker.
2Tiiba
I like it too, but think that just a bit more contrast would be good. Not a lot, but a little. As it is, it feels bland.
2curiousepic
There's a lot of stuff in here I'd like to upvote, but as the OP mentioned, it would be best to split up suggestions into their own comments.
0Alicorn
Editing.

Make a Welcome section that's clearly visible to first-time lurkers, and more helpful to them than the About page. PLEASE.

I think that the welcome threads are an important boon to new users, but unfortunately they're impossible to find as a lurker- the current fashion is to hope that someone notices that commenter X is new and says "Welcome to Less Wrong- check out the welcome thread!"

Unfortunately, there's a lot on the welcome thread that I think would be really helpful for someone to check out before they get to that point; and worse, much of the time a person's first comment is something that will get downvoted heavily for a reason they'd have known if they'd seen the welcome thread, and instead they end up in a flamewar and depart in a huff. THIS IS BAD.

I might expand on this idea with the general idea of, add a better "old-style website" portion to LW. Currently everything on LW is organized either blog-style or Reddit-style, which is not so great when you have things like important core pages you want everyone to be aware of - e.g. not only the sequences, but single-purpose threads (like the "best textbooks" thread) which, in the current blog-style format, might eventually be forgotten about and redone from scratch. Have a prominent "site map" style page that links to such things - the pages themselves can stay as blog posts, that's not a problem. Perhaps Eliezer and the other editors can have the ability to mark a thread for inclusion on this automatically, so people don't have to hand-code it in whenever there's something that merits inclusion.

To some extent the wiki acts as this, actually, but it's right now it's very hidden, not what a new user will automatically encounter. What if the wiki were the main page?

As an added incentive. I have committed to donating $50 to the hedonism fund (strictly enforced) of whoever's design gets used as the Welcome Page.

6curiousepic
I also propose that the content be voted on. I think a lot of us have something to say about how the site is presented to newcomers and I'd rather it not be left to a single person. Perhaps a competition like the one for rational philanthropy, or even proper A/B testing.
0orthonormal
Excellent idea!

In top-level posts, automatically replace "div" tags (which screw up the rest of the HTML) with "p", strip out all the font-specification crap that Microsoft Word and similar apps try to stuff in (the original font is good enough for everyone), and in general auto-simplify the HTML. This will save editors some work.

6wedrifid
I request that we don't have a 'half HTML' markup language. If it is html that doesn't allow font formatting or layout handling then it basically is just not HTML and shouldn't pretend to be. A far better alternative is to make the posts use full markdown syntax and a WYSIWYG editor.

I want a preference (or a per-page button) to turn off collapsing when there are a lot of comments on a page. I don't care if it takes twice as long - I'd rather wait a minute than click "load more comments" 512 times so I can do a thorough Find for whatever I seek.

9matt
A "load all comments" button? That'd save bandwidth for most users but save you the time on those occasions you wanted to search content.
3Alicorn
Yes, exactly.

I hate when unpopular comments get deleted, and all the replies lose their context. One alternative: a "Retract" button that marks your comment as retracted (maybe changes the text to a lighter color), stops the karma loss, automatically contracts the comment and its replies (like a comment below score threshold does), but doesn't delete the content for those who are curious?

I can think of problems with this proposal, so I'm open to other suggestions as well.

6Vladimir_Nesov
It's better to just forbid deleting comments that have replies. There is a ticket for that on the issue tracker.

Minimal, fast, lots of white space - like the current design. I worry that a new design would add lots of clutter and hurt the site's speed.

5Emile
There's a lot of stuff that could be removed to improve the site - the "new", "top", "top comments" and "saved" links under the header, the top contributor and links to recent OB posts in the sidebar, useless choices in the comment-sorting menu ("Popular" and "Controversial"), the "Report" links on comments, etc.
1wedrifid
Best suggestion on the page.
1jwhendy
+ as many points as I could. Busy = not improvement. Especially for the already-distraction prone.

An option for shared authorship on posts, showing the names of both users and splitting the karma gains between them. The karma could be either split equally or in a manner specified by the user posting it. E.g. Morendil could have tagged me as 20% responsible for his post on status, and I'd have gotten 2 karma points for each upvote.

Make it easier to skip around in user comment history - by month, for instance.

Fix this bug.

Yes, please. (Since Eugine declined to spell it out, the bug makes it way too easy to accidentally post a draft when you intend to save it for later- in fact, the only way I know not to have it posted is to click "Hide".)

4jwhendy
Indeed -- I had to independently figure that out the other day when a Discussion draft went lived. it also happened to a new poster who was being helped HERE. Even without fixing the bug... a simply bit of text could go under the save button for the discussion template that says, "Save in the Discussion section = post! Copy this post and start a draft from the top level!" or something like that. Or just fix the bug :)
[-]Larks320

Have a second karma bubble, that only sums the upvotes and downvotes you've given that person.

2saliency
Interesting idea, I'll up-vote it though it is not a top wish of mine. If implemented I would like to see it implemented as a rollover on the karma bubble. Though interesting I don't think it justifies taking up real-estate.

Add LaTeX support (I mean inline LaTeX, not this thing).

EDIT: Based on comments below, I think I misused the word "inline". What I meant was simply the ability to type LaTeX directly into comments and posts. How it gets rendered doesn't matter much to me; some legitimate objections have been raised, but I don't feel like hard math gets used enough on the site that this would get out of hand. Restricting its use to posts rather than comments might be a good compromise.

[-]ata110

MathJax is one good option for implementing that.